Grafton to Inverell 2010 - October 23rd

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Postby T-Bone » 15 Jul 2010, 18:24

It's still several months away, but apparently accommodation is getting very difficult to find.

So, the question is who is planning to race???

Entries close on October 10th.

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Postby shrubb face » 15 Jul 2010, 18:34

Im in. Already booked my accommodation with Al.

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Postby wallman » 15 Jul 2010, 18:35

Keen as. Al has a house up there?

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Postby orphic » 15 Jul 2010, 19:06

I think I would like to do the womens race. Anyone else keen? Amy, Camilla, Joanne?

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Postby shrubb face » 15 Jul 2010, 21:14

Al has a couple of rooms which he's had booked for years, if theres no beds left he said there is plenty of room on the floor. Probably worth dropping in for a visit and putting your name on his virtual list. Plus he has 5 dollar tubes, which is always handy.

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Postby mikesbytes » 15 Jul 2010, 22:19

I've been thinking about this one all year. When you finish in Inverell, do you get a lift back to Grafton, or do you stay in Inverell?

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Postby T-Bone » 15 Jul 2010, 22:47

You stay in Inverell. It's 228km back to Grafton.

It seems Al had me down for accommodation already. :D

For the women, you will need to be staying in Glen Innes before the race, as that's where it starts and where sign on is (on the friday).

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Postby PeterOS » 16 Jul 2010, 08:46

I'm off doing sneaky training for this event, and I think Al has got me down for accommodation.

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Postby orphic » 16 Jul 2010, 10:51

Well Jo there's a B grade and an A grade. B grade is less than 70km and A grade is less that 112km. I hate hills just as much (if not more) than you, but it would be cool to do it. I'll ride with you (read: suck your wheel!)

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Postby timyone » 16 Jul 2010, 11:50

im not sure about it, ive only been on a road bike once in the last few months besides those two road races, i might be just a track cyclist this year.

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Postby MarkL » 27 Jul 2010, 13:07

l should do this one, will call in and see Al this week.

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Postby mikesbytes » 12 Sep 2010, 19:25

Warning Warning Warning

Despite the saying entries close 10th October, says 17th September

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Postby MarkL » 12 Sep 2010, 22:50

Entered.

First 100k is neutral :D

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Postby timyone » 13 Sep 2010, 15:33

1st 80, the next 20km is a hill :S

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Postby T-Bone » 17 Sep 2010, 00:14

I've got my entry in now, just to be safe.

Peter, Mike, Alex, you'd better get your entries in now, just to make sure you don't miss out. (Though you could argue that everywhere else states entries closing 10th October...)

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Postby mikesbytes » 17 Sep 2010, 06:40

Entered

It states on online entry that entries close today

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Postby PeterOS » 17 Sep 2010, 13:14

Entered,
And scared !!!
Must change my signature to line up with Tim
"About to do the Gafton"

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Postby shrubb face » 17 Sep 2010, 17:36

Entered.

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Postby mikesbytes » 17 Sep 2010, 19:57

So unless someone else enters tonight its;
Alex
James
Joshua
Peter
Mark
Mike


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Postby T-Bone » 17 Sep 2010, 22:03

Although, since the cyclingNSW race calender and the actual Grafton to Inverell website both say entries close on 10th October, i reckon there's still a little bit of room for people to argue their way in.

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Postby timyone » 07 Oct 2010, 22:22

thanks for the link mike, looks like good advice!

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Postby mikesbytes » 10 Oct 2010, 17:46

How many mtrs of climbing?

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Postby timyone » 10 Oct 2010, 20:41

lol mike your obsessed with posting those sorta details on face book recently hey~!

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Postby mikesbytes » 10 Oct 2010, 21:28

Trying to gauge where I am training wise. At this point I think I've done half of what I need to have done

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Postby timyone » 10 Oct 2010, 22:31

Ride to katoomba and back

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Postby T-Bone » 10 Oct 2010, 22:33

You've got almost 2 weeks. I've got less than 1 week before Warrnambool, and i still have to do the finishing touches to my wheels.

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Postby timyone » 11 Oct 2010, 07:36

the problem is the hours on the bike though as well, my mechanic trains for it by doing some thing like maq pass, to katoomba to sydney, or some thing like that, tell me if you want to train with him, he may be doing it this sunday.

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Postby mikesbytes » 11 Oct 2010, 07:39

Graeme is tougher than me :)

As for training its all over now, as next weekend is the Fixie Century. Mark and I are adding 100k on Saturday to toughen it up a bit

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Postby timyone » 11 Oct 2010, 08:51

your doing 260?

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Postby mikesbytes » 11 Oct 2010, 09:02

100 sat + spin class
170 sun

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Postby mikesbytes » 12 Oct 2010, 09:27

Where's a van following with spare wheels ????

Can anyone lend me a Shimano 10 speed cassette to put on my spare wheels?

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Postby mikesbytes » 14 Oct 2010, 16:33

458 competitors, presumably to be split into A, B, C grade



I missed Ron, he's 1 of 7 competitors in his age category.

Alex
James
Joshua
Peter
Mark
Mike
Ron

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Postby mikesbytes » 14 Oct 2010, 16:48

Breakdown by age category
U/23 35
Elite Men 120
MMAS2 59
MMAS3 81
MMAS4 66
MMAS5 60
MMAS6 22
MMAS7 8
MMAS8 7

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Postby j.d.lester. » 17 Oct 2010, 17:48

..hey there.. is any one familiar with the feeding zone scenario? The race conditions say.. NOTE: All feeding must be conducted on foot from the left hand side only of the road.. but by chance speaking to guy at a mates bbq who competed two years ago was saying the handlers passed food in bags to riders tour de france style? No stopping?

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Postby T-Bone » 18 Oct 2010, 10:08

It's just like a feeding zone in the tour. You get your feeder to pass you what you want in the feeding zone as you ride past (can stop if you want, but the bunch won't). It's usually best using a bag, unless you're only grabbing one bottle.

The race conditions basically mean, no feeding from cars, and only in feeding zones.

Here's an example Our bunch will be going slower of course.

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Postby mikesbytes » 18 Oct 2010, 10:24

Hi James, can you please advise a food/drink plan

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Postby timyone » 18 Oct 2010, 12:27

alex is b grade!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby T-Bone » 18 Oct 2010, 15:43

Hmm, interesting gradings....

I'll let you know about the feeding once i've thought about it.

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Postby shrubb face » 18 Oct 2010, 16:19

oh god again. I wanted to win D grade

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Postby timyone » 18 Oct 2010, 16:20

well mr B grader :D

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Postby mikesbytes » 18 Oct 2010, 20:52

Looks like all of the U23's have been plonked in A and Div 2

.............A..D2..D3..D4
....U/23..25..10
....Elite..48..44..20..07
MMAS2..02..46..10
MMAS3..04..34..32..10
MMAS4..03..19..31..13
MMAS5.......02..45..13
MMAS7............01..07
MMAS6............03..19
MMAS8............01..06

While Div 4 has 75 rides, surely a chunk of those are ones that won't cut it with the bunch, so where does that leave James and I?

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Postby williamd » 19 Oct 2010, 08:06

I spoke to Al last night and he is leaving at 2am on friday morning.
I will be taking Peter O'sullivan and Michael Clement in my car and will be leaving around the same time as Al.

Michael can you call me on 97161981 to discuss where to meet on Friday morning.

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Postby T-Bone » 19 Oct 2010, 10:45

Just found this

Looks like the feeding zones are different to all the times i've done this race in the past. Previously the first feed was at the bottom of the climb, and the second and third were where the first and second now are (new third was nothing). So, 120 odd kms until the first feed, but neutral water bottom and top of climb.

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Postby timyone » 19 Oct 2010, 11:08

my one big tip for people, theres a big hill, at the bottom of the big hill, you want to be right at the front to get a water bottle or two. When you start riding up the hill, you want to be right up the front. This can not be highlighted enough. I was in the first 5 or so riders for this point, and as a result had all the fastest hill guys go past me some where up the climb, but i still finished it ahead of a lot of people that were a lot faster and stronger than me on hills! i just went at my own pace up the hill, never changing down gears.


yeah was only water at the bottom for us, where you want to be at the front!!!!!!!

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Postby williamd » 20 Oct 2010, 15:55

Michael
Peter O suggested we leave at 5am on Friday.
Please call me to discuss and where to meet.

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Postby timyone » 23 Oct 2010, 22:39

umm details?
Jackson law won the junior race, and sam from sydney city got third in A grade :D

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Postby orphic » 24 Oct 2010, 03:14

Sam Rutherford? That's heaps aweome! And go Jackson. Pretty epic race to place in...

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Postby shrubb face » 24 Oct 2010, 18:30

Yep, Sam Rutherford got 3rd in A grade.

I'll let everyone else post their own results (im busy doing uni work to write it all up). Was both a extremely hard yet rewarding race. B grade had almost 150 riders in there, so it was a large field. The first 70kms or so was very nervious, with lots of near crashes. I tried to stay in the front section of the peleton. At about the 60 km mark, I had a rear wheel puncture. Both A & B grade had Sram neural spares, so i pulled over with my hand up and completed a very professional wheel change, the Sram guy even gave me a push back up to speed. Chased back on reasonably easly, though it took me till about 2-3kms in to the climb to get back to the front of the pack.

The climb was very quick, I was in the first 20 or so until I started to fade about 2/3 of the way up. Eugene was on the side of the road with his extended family, to say he was excited upon seeing me still at the head of the race would be a understatement. I reached the top of the climb in between the front bunch and the second bunch on the road. I time trialed with another rider for a brief period period before we were caught by the bunch of 15 riders from behind. The bunch worked reasonably hard for the rest of the race. At one point we were about a minute or so behind the front bunch, we could see them up the road but could never quite catch them. My feeder didnt make it to the second or third feed zones in time. So i had to steal/borrow food and drink off other riders. At about the 150km mark, I had extremely bad leg cramps, due to lack of salt, water, etc, but managed to push through. Sprinted against the guys in my bunch at the end, think I got 4th and probably about 20 or 30th overal.

Im sure ill be back next year. Hopefully a couple of kilograms lighter for the climb.

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Postby mikesbytes » 25 Oct 2010, 06:14


Alex, James, Michael, Ron, Peter, Mark

Joshua missing

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Postby Adrian E » 25 Oct 2010, 10:40

Great report Alex. Sounds like you had fantastic ride. Finishing near the lead bunch in B grade is no small achievement in this race.

Congrats to everyone who rode and finished the race. Great to see Ron Webster still in amongst it. Much respect Ron!!!

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Postby mikesbytes » 25 Oct 2010, 20:42

Got some photos off Eugene, have cropped them

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Peter


Peter again


Me


Sorry that's all

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Postby jbcow » 25 Oct 2010, 20:50

great to see the snaps, must have been hard work. The following day I rode 4km indoors....

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Postby orphic » 26 Oct 2010, 08:14

Awesome work guys! Bet it was really hard work.

Anyone got Garmin data from the day? James?

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Postby T-Bone » 26 Oct 2010, 09:33

Garmin data is

As for my report.... In D grade the race started fairly slowly with nothing really happening until Gibralter. Unfortunately 3km before the climb i managed to tear a spoke out after my wheel magnet had moved and was hitting the sensor, but after a reasonable wheel change, i fairly easily chased back on, and was at the back of the bunch as the climb started, before quickly moving up to the front.

As the splits started to occur, i found myself in a group of 5 going up the climb with 1 rider off the front (who stayed away and won by 15-20min, from what i've heard). For the majority of the climb i was fairly comfortable, but tiredness started to creep into my legs on the last 1/4 of the climb, and with 2-3km until the top i had to ease off slightly and so did another rider. Going over summit in 6th place i could see the riders in front, but i wasn't going to catch them especially into the headwind that had turned up. So, i was on my own for the next 5km or so until the next group back caught me. I stayed in this group until the 1st feed, but along with another rider, i was shot out the back on the next climb.

So, once again i was by myself, until around 25km later another group caught me. I stayed with this group until the next 2nd feed, but was stuffed and got off the bike and sat down for 8min. The short rest proved to be a good decision as for the final 60km i felt great and caught and passed 4-5 other riders.

All up, i'm reasonably happy with my performance, especially on the climb, but i still need to work on my race endurance for next year.

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Postby orphic » 26 Oct 2010, 09:51

Wow, that elevation profile.. I'm speechless!

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Postby MarkL » 26 Oct 2010, 12:23

lt was a fantastic race!!!

Report to come, and Garmin data after l create an account.

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Postby shrubb face » 26 Oct 2010, 18:16

Mark, James and Myself after we were cornered by a photographer at the start.
http://maxhr.zenfolio.com/p633877346/h1 ... #h100573fd

and people said cycling was fun....
http://maxhr.zenfolio.com/p633877346/h1 ... #h17cc3964
http://maxhr.zenfolio.com/p633877346/h3ab732d#h3ab732d

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Postby othy » 27 Oct 2010, 12:23

Results are out:
http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/cy_nsw/ra ... tm#Results

Well done to everyone. Looks like B grade were only a minute slower over the climb then A.

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Postby shrubb face » 27 Oct 2010, 12:29

hmm, i lost more time than i thought i did. Oh well, Im still happy.

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Postby mikesbytes » 27 Oct 2010, 14:03



I've put the data in a spreadsheet, send me an email if you want to analyse it

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Postby Stuart » 31 Oct 2010, 09:28

Don't forget to tune in to Cycling Central TV: Sunday 5pm on SBS ONE. Extended highlights of Grafton-Inverell Classic.

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Postby mikesbytes » 31 Oct 2010, 22:27

Race Report
OK I've had a week to mill over the data and reflect on what went well and what would be done differently.

Background / Objective / Grading
With 3 training sessions (LWE, Mt Kera and Fixie Century), I was hardly prepared. My objective was to complete within the designated time zone. The race itself has 3,100mtrs of climbing including a 18k hill and my climbing ability could probably be described as average.
Div4 - 109 entrants

0 - 72k - the beginning
Pace was slow, I seriously considered going off the front and getting some space for the hill. 2 water bottles, 2 energy gels

72k - 90k - The 18k Hill
I took it way too conservatively. Reviewing the data later confirmed my suspicions, I was 1.5kph off the pace. I feel that was 1kph too conservative and needed to be another 0.5kph fitter. Almost 2 water bottles, 1 energy gel.
Started overtaking Div3 riders half way up the hill

90k - 185k - solo
Going over the top in 48th position I felt good, I upped the pace and picked up 2 riders, who were struggling so I told them to sit on my wheel but they couldn't hold me wheel, this repeated itself with every rider I came upon, regardless of whether they were Div3 or Div4. In the end I resigned to the fact that I was going to have to chase by myself.

First feed station I almost feel off, I was going too fast when I grabbed my feedbag and the sudden change in weight balance caught me out. Finished my 5th water bottle and carried on.

The headwind was getting stronger and I had to really focus on the speedo, so not to loose pace riding solo. I could see 5 riders about 3k in front with the wheel car following. Inbetween were 2 riders about half way, I decided to push really hard to catch the 2 riders and then work with them to get the other 5. Eugne came by and advised me to slow up, so to get caught by a group that had formed behind me, but I wanted those 5 riders. After a tough rider, I got to 30mtrs behind the 2 riders and they stopped :shock: . I had a crack at reeling in the final 1.5k but it didn't happen.

In Glen Innes I arrived at a roundabout with no bikes in sight and no one directing, I didn't know which way to go so I followed the road signs

Second feed station I still had 1 1/4 bottles of water so I tossed them just before the station as I had 2 more in my feed bag, but when I went thru Bill was missing, so I pressed on with no water. Fortunately Bill turned up about 10k later and gave me 2 water bottles.

Over the last 40k the group behind me would get closer and closer to me, then next thing they would disappear only to reappear 5k later.

185k - 210k Small Bunch
What a relief the bunch behind me finally caught. however they had broken up chasing me and only 3 riders arrived, 1 was dead, so the other 2 and I did the work. We picked up another Div3 rider but all he could do was sit on.

It was pretty obvious that none of these riders had a chance in heaven in taking me in the sprint and they knew it, the 2 other riders working played their card on the final hill and broke away from the rest of us.

210k - 230k Home run
The middle toes on my right foot were hurting badly, I don't know why, if it had been a training ride or a club race I would of stopped but with a mere 20k to go, I wasn't stopping.

The remaining riders with me were spent, it was up to me entirely to do the chasing and that's what I did for the next 15k, every time I got within spitting distance of the other 2 riders they would turn up the wick a little, it was a drag race 1 against 2.

Then with 5k to go, we got caught by the back half the bunch that had chased me for 40k. I gave up on chasing the other 2 riders and sat in, we cruised to the finish line. One rider took off and I couldn't be 'a' so I rolled over the line second in the bunch in 40th position. 8hours30min30sec, half an hour within cutoff, well within my pre race objective.

The first thing I said to Alex and James was "I will never do an endurance race again without adequate training"

Post Morton
- Objective met
- Too conservative on the hill, resulting in not riding in a bunch
- Not enough endurance training
- Very happy with my power and the improvements in my ability to ride in wind

Alex's spare wheel

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Postby Peter T » 01 Nov 2010, 15:44

Great read Mike!

Well done to you all.


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