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Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 22 Mar 2011, 22:55
by T-Bone
On Sunday night i realised entries were closing for the Macarthur Criteriums to be held on Sunday April 3rd. So with a few hours left to enter i didn't bother trying to remind anyone.

Luckily they seem to have extended entries until Sunday 27th.

We had a reasonably sized group race last year. It's a fairly easy circuit, and nice and fast unless the bunch doesn't want to ride.

I may enter, just need to think about it. Who else is in??

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 23 Mar 2011, 09:12
by timyone
oh far out im supposed to enter!!

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 23 Mar 2011, 12:35
by mikesbytes
Yeh, lucky its extended, I'll check my calendar and if it doesn't clash, I'm in

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 23 Mar 2011, 12:45
by shrubb face
I entered last night.

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 24 Mar 2011, 08:05
by timyone
im signed up, didn't actually check my calendar..

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 24 Mar 2011, 14:44
by NOOG
I'm in

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 24 Mar 2011, 17:12
by mikesbytes
Entered

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 29 Mar 2011, 08:54
by chuckdbacon
Ach, forgot to enter after getting approval =(. Apparently there are late entries on the day though.

How do the divisions here compare to usual A/B/C grading? I've raced comfortably in C grade Beaumount Rd and A grade at Southern Cross.

(The Macarthur CC website mentions that late entries will incur "strict grading", not sure what this means.)

Charlie

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 29 Mar 2011, 09:26
by timyone
go in the bottom grade. Even if your a strong rider (which you are) these crits are a harder level than club level. (tuesday night Heffron i a good judge of where your up to id say)

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 29 Mar 2011, 10:01
by mikesbytes
There's quite a difference in start times for the grades, we are better off knowing our grade before we turn up

http://www.macarthurcycling.com/?month= ... year_race=

Depending on my grade, I'm thinking of catching the train from Wolli Creek (50 minutes) and riding there (8k). Then I've got the option of riding home afterwards (50k).

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 29 Mar 2011, 13:21
by timyone
oo far out, i wonder when the grades are out! i love finding out my grade :D i dont as much when its a high one on the road! On the track i love high though :P

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 29 Mar 2011, 13:25
by mikesbytes
oo far out, i wonder when the grades are out! i love finding out my grade :D i dont as much when its a high one on the road! On the track i love high though :P
The higher your grade, the more shut eye you get

Who was in what grades last year?

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 29 Mar 2011, 13:35
by mikesbytes
The higher your grade, the more shut eye you get

Who was in what grades last year?
2010
B grade - Alex C
C grade - Tim L, Michael Ch
D grade - Mark L, Michael L
??? Amy V, James F, John N, Christian, Alex R

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 16:56
by NOOG
Grades are up:
http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/default.asp?Page=41946
CHUBB, Alexander U/23 Dulwich Hill BC 2

FOWLER, James Elite Men Dulwich Hill BC 3
NGUYEN, John Elite Men Dulwich Hill BC 3
LLEWELLYN, Timothy Elite Men Dulwich Hill BC 3

CLEMENT, Michael MMAS5 Dulwich Hill BC 4
LACEY, Mark MMAS5 Dulwich Hill BC 4

VESTY, Amy Elite Women Dulwich Hill BC 5

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 18:30
by mikesbytes
Interesting grading

A bit of data, in July last year Joshua and I went down to MCCC and did their ITT
Results
2nd Joshua 25.50
13th Michael Cl 28.39
41 competitors

Now to map the times against the entrants we get;
Div ITT Name
1 24.57 TALBOT, Brodie
1 26.08 KOLBACH, René
1 28.20 BUTLER, Trent
2 26.08 HAMPTON, David
2 27.00 MCDONALD, Daniel
2 27.32 BANCE, Barry
2 29.19 TAYLOR, Aaron
2 29.53 PLAYFORD, Matthew
2 30.20 MCLAREN, Daniel
3 28.44 JACKSON, Andrew
3 28.59 DENNIS, Johnathon
3 29.26 HICKEY, Daniel
4 28.39 CLEMENT, Michael
4 30.06 GLEESON, Michael
4 30.42 KOUREMBES, Jimmy
4 31.36 KEERS, Allan
4 31.51 FLOOD, Peter
4 32.03 VELLA, Jason
4 32.07 MINASSIAN, Luke
4 32.12 PELLIZZERI, Joe

The ITT course was hilly and I understand that the crit course is flat

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 21:20
by T-Bone
Grades look to be where they should be, though i've got no legs at all. I might try to find some legs during the day tomorrow.

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 21:44
by shrubb face
Ive just glued a tubular in preperation. I felt good at heffron the other day so hopefully its a sign of good things for sunday.

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 06:14
by mikesbytes
Grades look to be where they should be, though i've got no legs at all. I might try to find some legs during the day tomorrow.
If you look at my ITT time, I'm faster than all of the Div3 riders and half of the Div2 riders. So if those ITT times reflect performance, it would indicate that all 3 of the DHBC Div3 riders should be in contention

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 07:50
by wallman
If you look at my ITT time, I'm faster than all of the Div3 riders and half of the Div2 riders. So if those ITT times reflect performance, it would indicate that all 3 of the DHBC Div3 riders should be in contention
...and following that logic Josh should be at the very top of A grade which he's obviously not. Sorry Josh! I think you'll find that your methodology is flawed Mike, not the grading system. You're comparing turnips with oranges.

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 08:11
by Beanzy
Hi Mike,

Open Grades are set by your club handicapper and submitted to Cycling NSW on a quartely basis i believe. The clubs/promotors for open events then use this information to assign gradings/handicaps for entered riders.

If you feel you should be riding up a grade talk to your club handicapper.

See you out there Sunday :)

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 08:55
by mikesbytes
Hi Mike,

Open Grades are set by your club handicapper and submitted to Cycling NSW on a quartely basis i believe. The clubs/promotors for open events then use this information to assign gradings/handicaps for entered riders.

If you feel you should be riding up a grade talk to your club handicapper.

See you out there Sunday :)
I'm not so much seeing that, I'm seeing that MCCC have graded their riders a little hard. It's also hard to compare a hilly ITT with a flat crit

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 10:51
by timyone
thats the spirit! grade us by our time trial times!!! :D ill be D grade thank you :D
LOL unless every ones going to do solo break aways i dont think this will work, though id be happy to sit on any one that does :D

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 11:02
by timyone
AHHHH theres sutherland lads in our grade! Sutherland lads seem to be every where! and they are all super fit and strong!!

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 11:06
by chuckdbacon
So I should just turn up for Division 5 at 8am?

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 11:36
by timyone
hmmnn umm maybe 4,

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 11:39
by T-Bone
I reckon Div 4.

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 01 Apr 2011, 12:12
by chuckdbacon
Sweet, more sleep. Planning to get there early to make sure the late rego is sorted out though.

Re: Macarthur Crits 2011

Posted: 07 Apr 2011, 18:15
by mikesbytes
Some photos

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Div 4, probably lap 1 or 2

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Trying to control the pace of the bunch while Mark is off the front

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The hammer is down

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One of Alex, haven't come across any others

My race report over here
http://bicycles.net.au/forums/viewtopic ... &start=900