Long endurance ride with hills - Monday 7th October
If anyone is interested in coming along - I am quite likely to do a long ride on Monday.
I'll be heading north to Magrove Mountain (There are no mangroves. Lots of chicken poo tho! mmmmm chicken).
I will either go via:
Bobbin Head/Mt White/ Mooney Mooney Creek/Mangrove Moutain/Peats Ridge and return ~210kms
http://www.strava.com/activities/76322201
Descent and climb from mooney mooney is fantastic - and I need to beat Phillips time from last year on the climb! I'm guessing he was audaxing - I was under the impression that meant slow
Once you pass Brooklyn - there are no easy bail out options till you get back to Brooklyn 90km or so later.
or
Galston Gorge/Wisemans Ferry/Spencer/Mangrove Mountain/Peats Ridge/Bobbin Head (maybe) - little bit longer ~240 kms
http://www.strava.com/activities/67947586
Only done it once. Trip along the hawkesbury is great. You are more committed and it is more remote
Once you leave Hornsby - there are no easy bail out options till you reach Brooklyn - 140 km or so later.
Effort would be cruisy middies/fast 28s. I average ~23 to 25 km/hr on rides like this. But there is 8 to 10 hours saddle time.
I'd be leaving around 5:30 - and expect to return between 3 and 5 - depending on stuff.
I'll be heading north to Magrove Mountain (There are no mangroves. Lots of chicken poo tho! mmmmm chicken).
I will either go via:
Bobbin Head/Mt White/ Mooney Mooney Creek/Mangrove Moutain/Peats Ridge and return ~210kms
http://www.strava.com/activities/76322201
Descent and climb from mooney mooney is fantastic - and I need to beat Phillips time from last year on the climb! I'm guessing he was audaxing - I was under the impression that meant slow
Once you pass Brooklyn - there are no easy bail out options till you get back to Brooklyn 90km or so later.
or
Galston Gorge/Wisemans Ferry/Spencer/Mangrove Mountain/Peats Ridge/Bobbin Head (maybe) - little bit longer ~240 kms
http://www.strava.com/activities/67947586
Only done it once. Trip along the hawkesbury is great. You are more committed and it is more remote
Once you leave Hornsby - there are no easy bail out options till you reach Brooklyn - 140 km or so later.
Effort would be cruisy middies/fast 28s. I average ~23 to 25 km/hr on rides like this. But there is 8 to 10 hours saddle time.
I'd be leaving around 5:30 - and expect to return between 3 and 5 - depending on stuff.
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I'll tag along Andrew as I was hoping to do almost exactly the same thing
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No preference, I haven't done either and both are on my bucket list.
Longer and prettier?
Anyway to combine the best bits of both?
Which will afford James more tea making opportunities?
Longer and prettier?
Anyway to combine the best bits of both?
Which will afford James more tea making opportunities?
pretty sure I'll be good for this one too, besides it seems I have hills to defend, though with James coming along that may be a fruitless task. I'll confirm later today. Either route is good for me.
Best Bits - hadn't thought of that!
this http://app.strava.com/routes/30524
Would be epic. Not much longer than the first Wisemans option (maybe 10-15 km). More scenic - anyone who has done the Calga TT will know the ride from Peats Ridge to Calga is ordinary. Less chicken poo. And an extra hill (Mooney Mooney) for more tea. Only downside is it is not possible to challenge Philip as we'd be doing Mooney Mooney the other way.
I vote we aim for option 3. And if it wasn't daylight saving starting (we had all better remember that!) I'd suggest a 5 oclock start.
Maybe instead of tea, James can fill his growlers here http://www.younghenrys.com/ on Sunday and we can have a refreshing ale at the top of each hill.
At the very least - carrying a couple of growlers could slow him down to keep pace with the rest of us.
this http://app.strava.com/routes/30524
Would be epic. Not much longer than the first Wisemans option (maybe 10-15 km). More scenic - anyone who has done the Calga TT will know the ride from Peats Ridge to Calga is ordinary. Less chicken poo. And an extra hill (Mooney Mooney) for more tea. Only downside is it is not possible to challenge Philip as we'd be doing Mooney Mooney the other way.
I vote we aim for option 3. And if it wasn't daylight saving starting (we had all better remember that!) I'd suggest a 5 oclock start.
Maybe instead of tea, James can fill his growlers here http://www.younghenrys.com/ on Sunday and we can have a refreshing ale at the top of each hill.
At the very least - carrying a couple of growlers could slow him down to keep pace with the rest of us.
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That's a pity Jon.
I may, and I mean may ride more than you in a month Andrew but you beat me hands down in epic rides.
I may, and I mean may ride more than you in a month Andrew but you beat me hands down in epic rides.
Didn't miss much Noel. Coming home from RNP I linked up with the C28s. And 100 mtrs from arriving at the cafe about to over the last hill and I look back momentarily only to touch my front wheel with a slower rider in front and go down hard.
Lucky no-one else affected but wheels out of true very sore ribs and pride dented...
Lucky no-one else affected but wheels out of true very sore ribs and pride dented...
At the cost of substantial political capital, I'm in. Are we talking 6am or earlier. Is there a food stop somewhere, other than James's Devonshire teas at the top of each hill, or are we in true endurance mode?
I rekon as previously advertised in the first post
5:30 am @ the Marrick (even on a holiday I'd like to get the Highway done prior to traffic)
We will aim to do the best bits ~250 km with 5 significant hills - Galtson Gorge, Mangrove Mountain, Mooney Mooney Creek, Pie in the Sky, Bobbin Head. This should be roughly equivalent in distance and elevation (but not difficulty) to the Fitz extreme.
http://app.strava.com/routes/30524
If not travelling well we can lop bits off the end - eg loose Mooney Mooney Creek, and/or loose the Pie in the Sky climb and bail at Brooklyn, loose Bobbin Head and bail at Berowra etc. It will be at least 160 km.
Quite a few potential refueling places. Likely stops would be:
Standard disclaimer - Bring tubes, tools, money, mobile phone etc. We are pretty commited between Hornsby and Brooklyn. The only alternative to riding out is an exepnsive taxi, lift from a loved one (now that would cost political capital!) or teleportation. We are all pretty self-sufficient if need be - which is good and necessary. This is not a club ride.
5:30 am @ the Marrick (even on a holiday I'd like to get the Highway done prior to traffic)
We will aim to do the best bits ~250 km with 5 significant hills - Galtson Gorge, Mangrove Mountain, Mooney Mooney Creek, Pie in the Sky, Bobbin Head. This should be roughly equivalent in distance and elevation (but not difficulty) to the Fitz extreme.
http://app.strava.com/routes/30524
If not travelling well we can lop bits off the end - eg loose Mooney Mooney Creek, and/or loose the Pie in the Sky climb and bail at Brooklyn, loose Bobbin Head and bail at Berowra etc. It will be at least 160 km.
Quite a few potential refueling places. Likely stops would be:
If needed many places before Glenorie out to about 50 km
80 km Wisemans Ferry (no tap water, but a takeaway food place and small supermarket for bottled water/coke/gatorade/mars bars etc). A quick refuel. I suggest we dont eat there as its pretty crap really - especially compared to
110 km Spencer Nice little General Store/takeway. Brunch. Sit down. Eat on the wharf. Could even have a beer or glass of wine. http://www.spencerstore.com.au/
If needed Central Mangrove after 135 km. General Store. Never stopped there.
If needed Mt White after 170 km. Takeaway. The nice lady there has filled my bidons with water a couple of times.
185 km Pie in the Sky. http://pieintheskycowan.com.au/ An icon of northside riding. Lunch. Sit down for a well earnt pie. Consider how foolish we would be to ride home via Bobbbin Head.
Many palces after that on the way back through Sydney
Home - collapse on couch and have family feed you peeled grapes or Haighs choclate truffles
Standard disclaimer - Bring tubes, tools, money, mobile phone etc. We are pretty commited between Hornsby and Brooklyn. The only alternative to riding out is an exepnsive taxi, lift from a loved one (now that would cost political capital!) or teleportation. We are all pretty self-sufficient if need be - which is good and necessary. This is not a club ride.
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Phil, I am also in the doghouse
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Sorry Andrew I was to excited to read to the bottom. So 5.30 it is. Peter if I rode as much as you do the dog house would be a step up. More likely I'd be dog food.
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One of you has to crack 100 Strava trophies.
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totally!!!
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Quite pleasant along the river to Spencer. The climb up to Central Mangrove wasn't too steep. The next bit to Somersby was a bit boring and some impatient traffic annoyed. The descent into Mooney Mooney Ck was nice and the climb again not so steep, then a lame section until the top of the descent. It was also warm and a bit windy.So what is the ride from Wiseman's to Mooney Mooney like?
All in all, fabulous!
Peter
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Wiseman's to Mooney Mooney is part of the Adventure ride I'm planning. I wasn't sure about how it was traffic wise. So is it OK?
Do u plan to outdo 250km?Wiseman's to Mooney Mooney is part of the Adventure ride I'm planning. I wasn't sure about how it was traffic wise. So is it OK?
Mike, though you were thinking from wisemans to wyong. Yarramalong valley would be gorgeous. Climbing bumble hill is on my bucket list (next epic?)
Traffic from wisemans to mangrove mountain is fine. The rest you should be familiar with from the calga tt? Traffic from central mangrove to somersby is ok. Choose the road with the shoulder. Traffic from central mangrove to calga via peats ridge is ok as well, good shoulder for most of it.
Traffic from wisemans to mangrove mountain is fine. The rest you should be familiar with from the calga tt? Traffic from central mangrove to somersby is ok. Choose the road with the shoulder. Traffic from central mangrove to calga via peats ridge is ok as well, good shoulder for most of it.
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Basically yes, it was ok. Temper that with the fact it was a public holiday. Only shenanigans I remember were a couple of utes traveling in convoy on a very wide section of road near the Peats Ridge Rd turn off (?). Must have been running late for the bogan convention. Overall, motorists were very patient along some of the narrower sections, to the extent, at times, I wondered if we were in Greater Sydney.
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Bummer!Lovely quiet ride along the river from Wisemans to Windsor. But no trains running, so rode on to Penrith.
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