Team Time Trials - 19th July 2014 at Nowra

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Postby Eleri » 06 Apr 2014, 16:22

The Team Time Trials are coming round quickly and it's time to start getting teams together. Last year DHBC fielded 9 Masters teams and there was a hot contest between teams to get the fastest time overall.

It was also the first racing experience for a number in the club.

So, what's involved?

You need a team of four fairly evenly matched riders. If you are male and want to go in the 150+ category you need to form a team where the 3 youngest blokes add up to 150 years (someone will correct me if I'm wrong about that.)

The time that counts is that of the 3rd rider over the line. No point riding off the front because you've just made your 2nd and 3rd riders slower. And you need to keep your 4th rider in the race as long as possible, just in case one of the front 3 has a mechanical or just blows up. There is no I in team is a truism in TTTs.

That said, it's a great bonding experience and great club day out. Last year we were one of the best represented clubs. For diehards, there is a handicap road race the next day. I'm doing that again and I'll be building on previous years' experiences where I came 2nd last, to somewhere near last. This time I'll be aiming not to get dropped in the first 5 kms.

So, size up your riding colleagues. Try and get a team together and remember that there's some teams you really want to try and beat. ;-)

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Postby Stuart » 07 Apr 2014, 09:40

Note you'll need a gold racing licence to participate.

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Postby jonboy » 07 Apr 2014, 14:26

That last post from Lindsay should be spun off into a caption competition.

I'm keen to do this Nowra weekend away again this year.

Don't assume that a 150+ team is going to be significantly slower. The old blokes are the ones with all the money to splash on superlight bikes and flashy wheels.

Much more interesting than than the TTT was the race on the following day (Nowra to Sassafras).

I recall the howling winds, and riding with some older guys from Nowra on steel bikes who were really fit and very friendly.

That was my first road race and I learned a lot.

J

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Postby JoTheBuilder » 07 Apr 2014, 16:45

I can safely say I will not be doing the road race on the Sunday.

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Postby Strawburger » 07 Apr 2014, 17:25

After 2 false starts the last 2 years I'll be in for this, and looking for a team. I've got aero gear but not a TT specific bike.

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Postby James Rogers » 07 Apr 2014, 18:23

I have the inclination...

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Postby andrewm » 07 Apr 2014, 19:11

I'm interested in the road race.

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Postby humanbeing » 08 Apr 2014, 08:23

Time trial, road race then back to Sydney for High On Fire - woo hoo!

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Postby andrewm » 08 Apr 2014, 09:18

high on fire - forgot about that....

i should just have a fully self indulgent weekend and to the TT as well eh?

although for the tt i have no gear and no idea :)

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Postby kiwiames » 08 Apr 2014, 09:28

I'd like a team for the TTT and also plan to race the road race the next day. I have no TT gear or 'race wheels' but I figure its more about the team than looking the part :-). There's a few masters women this year so maybe we can have 2 teams, at least I can participate this year after a couple of years out.

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Postby Strawburger » 09 Apr 2014, 10:24

I'm assembling 2 masters men's teams. I've put some feelers out, at this stage I have 4 confirmed riders:

Josh L
James R
Andrew M
Simon B

Am looking for 4 more riders. I've asked 2 others and am waiting for a reply. Haven't thought about how to split the two teams yet, that will come after we have the 8 confirmed.

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Postby JoTheBuilder » 09 Apr 2014, 11:15

So far in Masters Women we have:
1. Jo S
2. Jo T
3. Eleri
4. Michele P
5. Amy

Can we persuade another 3 to also have 2 teams? Jacqui? Bec? Michele W? Ali G? Tam? Laura G?

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Postby Strawburger » 09 Apr 2014, 12:38

Great thanks John, I'll add you to the list!

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Postby JoTheBuilder » 09 Apr 2014, 12:41

Camilla is in Greece unfortunately (or fortunately if you're Camilla)...

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Postby marc2131 » 09 Apr 2014, 15:45

The Valley Wheelers ran 3 teams last year. I believe we might be up for 4 this year.

Our fast team (we are all 'fast' but to varying degrees) will be:
1. Alister Simington - M5?
2. Peter Bownes - M4
3. Marc Rerceretnam - M5
4. John Caley - M5?

Not sure if we can make up the 150 year target this year.

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Postby weller » 09 Apr 2014, 16:49

Our team from last year has re-confirmed - we'll be in the +150 group this year:
- Shaun Kinna
- Tom Hartley
- Matthew Nott
- Craig Weller

Also, as mentoed on an earlier post I have a Zipp 808 tubular (3 tubs included) front wheel for sale. Guaranteed to improve your TT times!!

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Postby mikesbytes » 11 Apr 2014, 11:28

Simon, James and i are working on matching up male riders of similar speed.

Adam, Rob and any others, could you please PM me your email address, age as at 31/12/2014 and a description of your racing.

Hopefully we can get even teams, which makes it more fun

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Postby Stuart » 11 Apr 2014, 12:16

The Carbon Cranks men's masters team will once again be leaving it all out on the road in an attempt to beat the masters women ... let the trash talking begin.

Featuring:
Cameron - 'the engine'
Dougie - 'unleashing the furry'
Adam - 'yes I will buy a new shifter before July'
Stuart - 'the weakest link'

The Carbon Cranks looking totally pro at the start of the 2013 edition

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Postby Strawburger » 11 Apr 2014, 13:43

Thanks adam and rob the ox. I've put you down on the list.

If you can email (private message) mike your details, we can then take organisational discussions off line.

Cheers!

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Postby mikesbytes » 16 Apr 2014, 16:29

Looking at fielding 4 masters teams, however we have an uneven number of riders.

If there are any other male master riders that are interested, could you please PM me your email address

Cheers Mike

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Postby PJCampbell » 17 Apr 2014, 13:55

I'd be interested in this depending on whether I can get a leave pass from the Boss, and I don't mean Bruce Springsteen. My level would be fast middies based on Waterfall ride experience, maybe fasties on a good day.

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Postby Benno » 19 Apr 2014, 12:21

Hi
Bumped into Rob the other day and he suggested I enter the TTT.
I am interested in joining a Masters team for the TTT and riding the road race the next day.

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Postby mikesbytes » 19 Apr 2014, 18:35

Thanks Benno, your piped Pete to the line while he was sorting his leave pass :(
Pete, someone will go belly up, so as a reserve you likely to land a team :)

So what does the red sea of awesome look like....

U150 team GenX
Josh Lester
Simon Berry (captain)
James Rogers
Robert Webber

150+ team Boomers
Mark Lacey
Paul Armishaw
Michael Clement (captain)
Philip Le Masurier

U150 team Climb
Andrew Mattes
Adam Ward
Jonathon Wong (captain)
Liam O'Halloran

U150 team Power
Philip Gaucitua
John Healey (captain)
Noel Gorrell
Ben Croft

So its time to surf the web for the best deals on clip-on's, TT helmets, TT oversocks and hassle Christian for another skinsuit order :)

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Postby Adam W » 19 Apr 2014, 19:13

Thanks for organising Mike!

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Postby Nozzle » 19 Apr 2014, 19:25

+1 for skin suits. If you aren't fast, you may as well look fast.....

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Postby Dasher2217 » 04 May 2014, 15:32

Is there any interest for another masters team?
Jonathan and I are keen to go. With our combined experience of time trial racing we could be called...enthusiastic
So are there any other takers?
1. Rob Dash

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Postby Jonathan » 08 May 2014, 14:04

Is there any interest for another masters team?
Jonathan and I are keen to go. With our combined experience of time trial racing we could be called...enthusiastic
So are there any other takers?
1. Rob Dash.
2. Jonathan - this is the day before my 33rd birthday- I have had an extremely hard life.............

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Postby JoTheBuilder » 08 May 2014, 19:45

New clothing order is up but closes on the 17th May. Get in now!

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Postby mikesbytes » 09 May 2014, 12:13

Paul has a sore bottom, so the 150+ team is down one rider. The current team consists of Fasties and Middies.

Minimum age is 44 as at 31/12/14 as the current youngest rider in the team is 53

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Postby mikesbytes » 10 May 2014, 08:24

Highly recommend that those who don't have a skin suit get one.

A short sleeve skin suit is great for crits, when I raced in the NSW master crit champs almost 50% of the riders was wearing one and its cheaper than buying a set

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Postby Stuart » 10 May 2014, 09:34

Seriously, a skinsuit would make zero difference to my performance and just make me look fat ...

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Postby mikesbytes » 11 May 2014, 13:46

We are looking at a small reshuffle.

If your not currently in a team then please PM you contact details to Jonathan, his forum name is Jdubs. Min age 30

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Postby Stuart » 11 May 2014, 20:23

And if you're female and over 30 there's a spot for you on the second team .. come on people, you have Amy to anchor you

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Might be of interest to some ....


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Postby mikesbytes » 14 May 2014, 13:42

ha ha, that's still a big figure.

I've seen data that shows that a slow rider gets a slightly greater gain out off an aerodynamic improvement than a fast rider

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Postby JoTheBuilder » 22 May 2014, 09:36

Looks like the ladies team just got a whole lot better... Turns out I can't go as it's my sisters hens weekend.

So Amy Vesty can go in to our team and they suddenly just got twice as fast.

Watch out Gentleman...

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Postby mikesbytes » 22 May 2014, 22:33

The secret is in the coffee breaks

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Postby Jdubs » 31 May 2014, 13:30

Calga is on tomorrow, and Michael's team is going to use Calga as a trial run for the teams in Norwa.
My team will have only two people who are keen for going tomorrow to Calga. If you have a trial run with us, please PM me we'll organise something, otherwise we'll just have a solo session.

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Postby mikesbytes » 01 Jun 2014, 18:56

It was a great morning out at Calga, Mark, Amy, Philip, Andrew and I were greeted by dry roads, no rain clouds above, and even a bit of sunshine.

Amy did the 25k ITT and set a PB. Amy continues to show the best form of her life. Her reward is that next month Calga is free.

Mark, Philip, Andrew and I went as a team for the 43k route. It was Andrew's first visit to Calga and none of us had done the 43k route, though I had done a bit of it when I podium'ed in the 2011 ITT champs. We learn't a lot about our teams strengths and challenges.

We finished the morning off with a coffee and pie at 'pie in the sky'. An excellent way to finish off a great day

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Postby Eleri » 15 Jun 2014, 12:41

Don't forget to register for this event. Only one person needs to enter and they will become the team captain.

Entry Instructions

Team Captain Enters once for the whole team
Enters the names AND licence numbers of team members in the fields provided
Team Captain then pays the team entry fee



Still looking for a team?

Anyone who still wants to race and hasn't got a team, please put your name here on this thread and say what sort of rider you are (i.e. comfortable C28s to Waterfall or something). Don't be deterred by the fact that you aren't riding with the fasts or the middies - you don't have to. Why! Last year one of the DHBC teams took last place! We fielded 9 teams last year and I think will exceed that this year. It's a great first race. Plan to stay around for a big chunk of the day, take warm clothes and cheer your club mates on. And we can use it as an informal intra-club contest. It's going to be great!

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Postby Karzie » 17 Jun 2014, 09:41

I think we can claim to have won the wooden spoon for quite a number of years now. Those of us habituated to disappointment band together to save others from total ignominy.

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Postby mikesbytes » 19 Jun 2014, 13:33

Have entered a team

While I know I submitted 100% correctly, can't see any details on the team apart from my name, anyone know how to see the team entered?

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Postby Jdubs » 20 Jun 2014, 17:00

Hi guys,

My team has only three guys in it at the moment as Adam West has been ruled out injured. We've been struggling to find his replacement, if anyone is interested please send me a PM or reply on this thread. There is no age limit on this 4th person.

Thanks,
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Postby mikesbytes » 21 Jun 2014, 13:27

Bit of info on aero improvements


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Postby Beejay1188 » 21 Jun 2014, 16:29

Hi Jdubs.

How fast is your team?

Ive never done this before but i might be able to do it.

Not sure what your percieved avg would be.

thanks
Steve

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I've seen data that shows that slow riders benefit slightly more from aero improvements than fast riders

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Postby mikesbytes » 23 Jun 2014, 22:10

Well it looks like the other team should buy themselves helmets


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Postby mikesbytes » 24 Jun 2014, 20:30

This one might have the style you are looking for


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Postby Karzie » 24 Jun 2014, 22:20

Sweet! You know me so well!

Red with yellow flames. I want that one!

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Postby Jdubs » 01 Jul 2014, 06:27

LAST CALL:
Anyone who wants to do the TTT, my team has space for one more person. Please PM me to enquire or call ...

Jonathan W
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Postby mikesbytes » 01 Jul 2014, 10:25

Must be someone who wants to have some fun with Jonathon and company

Also if anyone who doesn't have a race license, ie has a silver license wants to put a team together, there's an event for you


Entries for this one close Tuesday 15th July 2014

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Postby Beejay1188 » 01 Jul 2014, 14:02

mike,
I'm going to be in Jonathons team and i spoke to the runners of the nowra event.
They said my Silver licence is enough to ride at Nowra.

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Postby Stuart » 01 Jul 2014, 17:15

Yes Marc is correct. Same story last year. Lots of last minute licence upgrades were required. But now that's its Q3 you can upgrade for half price.

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Postby Strawburger » 02 Jul 2014, 12:48

Why would they hold a seperate event for silver licence members then??? Baffling!

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Postby Strawburger » 02 Jul 2014, 13:33

"The Germinators" had a good solid session in the park this morning. An ambitious target of 1hr was bounced around as the time to aim for. If all the team members recover from various colds and flus they have had recently then this could be achievable.

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Postby mikesbytes » 02 Jul 2014, 13:45

Last year they stuffed up and had to reverse the silver license decision. It would seem that they have created the non championship event to cater especially for silver license riders

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Postby Beejay1188 » 02 Jul 2014, 17:38

None of this makes any sense...

So what is happening here is that they are willing to allow me to sign up with my Silver Licence number, take my money, but on the day not allow me to ride?

Even though at least two of their staff have now told me prior that all is completely ok to do so?

Whats the criteria that will make them change their mind about me? Wouldn't it be easier on their part just to say you need a gold licence - full stop?

I suppose, if I have to, I'll sign up for the gold licence but it will definitely be the only event this year that I'll need that for, and if in the end i don't need it, they're not going to give me a refund that's for sure.

So frustrating...

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Postby Beejay1188 » 02 Jul 2014, 17:41

Dougie...

I did ring Cycling Australia.

They told me that they didn't have a clue what licence was required, as they weren't running the event.

Told me to contact NSW Cycling - which I have now done twice..

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Postby JoTheBuilder » 03 Jul 2014, 20:05

I have two aero helmets that anyone is welcome to borrow for the TTT if they'd like.

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Postby marc2131 » 04 Jul 2014, 12:10

An upgrade from a silver Recreation license to a gold Race license (Masters only) is $105.60.
This will last you till the end of Dec 2014.
You will need to download the membership form and refill this out, remember to tick the 'upgrade to race license' box at the top of the form.
Then you will have to download a separate credit card payment form and fill this out.
Scan and send back or post the forms to Cycling Australia. You'll need to speak to Lance (membership officer) at their Mascot office.

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Postby ratzzzzz » 04 Jul 2014, 14:45

I did this today - it cost me $61.60 to upgrade from silver rec to gold masters. They said it might come through this afternoon so I can race raw..

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Postby ratzzzzz » 04 Jul 2014, 16:12

maybe they saw you at track and know your racing goes longer than everyone else because you ride 7 warm down laps :P

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Postby Dougie » 04 Jul 2014, 16:18

Marc it was $55 last year to upgrade from silver to gold masters for 6 months

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Postby humanbeing » 04 Jul 2014, 16:57

I remember last year, we all upgraded and everyone paid a different amount.
Same story this year :)

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Postby Beejay1188 » 04 Jul 2014, 18:19

Thanks for that info...I will upgrade this week coming so I will know I wont have any issues in Nowra.

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Postby andrewm » 05 Jul 2014, 11:28

Hmm. The level of competence and professonsm in cycling nsw is quite noteable.

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Postby Beejay1188 » 08 Jul 2014, 14:47

Got the below via email this afternoon...

"Hi Steve
This email is to confirm that full Silver Licence holders are eligible to compete in the 2014 NSW Club Team Time Trial Championships on Saturday 19th July 2014."

Regards,
Dean Coxall
Competitions Co-ordinator | Cycling New South Wales
T: +61 (02) 9738 5850 | F: +61 (02) 9738 5853
E: dean.coxall@cycling.org.au | W: www.nsw.cycling.org.au
Dunc Gray Velodrome, Carysfield Road, Bass Hill NSW 2197
PO Box 7209, Bass Hill NSW 2197

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Print that out and take it with you

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I will be Mike..

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Postby Beejay1188 » 08 Jul 2014, 16:00

Hi Marc.

I spoke to Dean (3rd person i'd spoken to) and explained the issues and the advice I was getting on this forum.

He was the one who said "would it help if I gave it to you in writing"

I of course said yes, and he sent this email to me today.

He's also the guy who going to be on the desk at the event on the day, so I'm feeling pretty confident I'm ok.

Cheers,
Steve

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Postby Eleri » 08 Jul 2014, 22:22

Awesome! The CNSW list is out and a quick count shows DHBC has 12 teams entered (47 people) - that's 3 more teams than last year.

Check your team is

Start times still to come.

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Postby Dasher2217 » 09 Jul 2014, 18:03

RIDER NEEDED

Our team has only 3 riders now. is anyone interested in joining me Jonathan and Paul?
we are strong C28 ability and entered in the 150+ category
If you're interested I can try and persuade Cycling NSW to accept a late entry

Rob

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Postby Jdubs » 12 Jul 2014, 02:13

There is one DHBC team:
MMAS 150+ WELLER, Craig
MMAS 150+ KINNA, Shaun
MMAS 150+ NOTT, Matthew
MMAS 150+ HARTLEY, Thomas
MMAS 150+ HOCKNELL, Martin
This team has 5 people. If they're happy to have one of them ride with Rob's team, it should work out.
Any idea how to get in touch with any of these people?

James and Dean at cyclingNSW seems to be quite lenient on making last minute adjustments to teams.

Jonathan W

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Postby James Rogers » 13 Jul 2014, 19:51

Our team has had an emergency situation/scratching—we'll race with 3, but would be nice to have a fourth member—our aim is to average somewhere near 40kph ;)

U150 team GenX
Simon Berry (captain)
James Rogers
Robert Webber
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Postby mikesbytes » 14 Jul 2014, 11:19

I'm going down by myself, need accommodation

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Postby Stuart » 14 Jul 2014, 18:49

Still no start times ...

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Postby jcaley » 14 Jul 2014, 22:07

I have space in my car for 2 more leaving from RAW Friday night. Return after Nowra Sassafras race.


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