Everesting - Garie Beach Hill - Saturday, 28 May 2016

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Postby p_mayson » 06 May 2016, 11:11

Are you ready for the ultimate climbing challenge?

The concept is simple. Pick any climb, anywhere in the world. And ride up it, again and again, until you've racked up 8,848m of vertical elevation. In one single ride. No time restriction. No distance requirement. No sleep allowed

More information can be found here: http://www.everesting.cc

DHBC is hosting this for the very first time

And we've chosen Garie Beach Hill. The climb is ~200m of vertical elevation, has a fairly consistent gradient (~7.3%), few cars, and there is water, toilets, a kiosk and parking for support vehicles down the bottom

In fact, the picnic area down the bottom is one of the most majestic spots in the Royal National Park. So we're hoping to make a day of it. A couple of club members have offered to bring BBQ equipment, eskys, picnic food etc for the riders and others

And we'd be delighted if as many of our club mates as possible (and their friends and families) could participate in some way or another - whether as a rider (for some or all), spectator or supporter

As a rider, you don't have to be a great climber. In fact, you can choose your own challenge. For example:

• Table Mountain (1,085m) - 6 repeats

• Kosciuszko (2,228m) - 12 repeats

• Olympus (2,918m) - 15 repeats

• Fuji (3,776m) - 19 repeats

• Matterhorn (4,478m) - 23 repeats

• Mont Blanc (4,810m) - 25 repeats

• Kilimanjaro (5,895m) - 30 repeats

• Aconcagua (6,962m) - 35 repeats

• Everest (8,848m) - 45 repeats

The riders who'll be making the most ambitious attempts will start (very) early. But you can really come along whenever, and participate for as little or as long as, you want

We look forward to your support, and hope to see you there

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Postby Dave_Ranx » 08 May 2016, 18:51

Pauly i'll help where i can mate.

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Postby weller » 09 May 2016, 10:34

What time are the early started beginning?

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Postby weller » 09 May 2016, 10:34

starters

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Postby Adam W » 09 May 2016, 13:26

Cheers Dave.

Hi Craig - anyone attempting the whole thing (or a big chunk of it) will likely want to drive to the start. I am thinking a 3am or 4am start at the bottom of Garie Beach but this has not been confirmed just yet.

Adam

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Postby Neilm » 09 May 2016, 18:48

can you get in at that time im pretty sure there is a gate locked ?

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Postby p_mayson » 10 May 2016, 14:03

Guys - I'm speaking with relevant RNP staff and organising a gate key

Cheers
Paul

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Postby Dave_Maywald » 14 May 2016, 07:20

Good news about that date, my weekend plans have been cancelled... so I'll be joining you in the ride, hopefully for the early start. :)

It's very exciting to be embarking on a challenge like this, with you all.

Dave M

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Postby Adam W » 14 May 2016, 18:17

That is great news Dave. Glad to have you back on board.

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Postby canthes » 20 May 2016, 21:31

Hi All,
I will be leaving the square at Marrickville at 6am to join the "Everesters" for a couple of repeats at Garrie Beach. Please feel free to join me to show some support and cheer them on!
Cheers
Cam

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Postby Diana M » 23 May 2016, 17:29

I'll join you too Cam & Dave. Who knows, a couple of repeats may not be enough and I'll keep going for a few more!

Di

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Postby p_mayson » 24 May 2016, 10:04

Thanks for your support guys

Current thinking / status as follows:

Those attempting an "Everest": Adam Ward, David Maywald & Paul Mayson. Will drive as close as possible to Garie Beach picnic area very early in the morning on Sat 28 May (which may be the gate near the top of Garie Beach Hill). Will start riding at ~3am

First support car: Michele Wood. Will arrive as early as she can. Will bring some food & water

Subsequent support cars: Neil Moxham & Dave Emerson. Will bring BBQ / picnic equipment & some food / beverages

Riding down: Cameron Anthes, Dave Brown, Diana Mullineux, Renee Heinrich, Katie Uther, Dave Rankin, Peter Bownes (and hopefully others)

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Postby Adam W » 24 May 2016, 10:30

We should be there till at least 10pm (if not 1am) so if anyone feels like joining us for an arvo/night spin please do.

Also I found a Bluetooth speaker that fits in my bottle cage, so every 5 laps will be a party lap woohoo!

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Postby jonboy » 24 May 2016, 10:52

Can someone bring an extra large tub of Aussie Butt Cream and some hot towels at around midnight.

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Postby demerson » 24 May 2016, 11:12

I will get there as early as I can and bring a small charcoal bbq, fuel lighters, tongs etc ... I will leave that with Michele's car when I leave at about 9:30am as I have a commitment at 11am-12am back near Marrickville. That way others can cook food if I take too long to return. I will also bring a basic bike toolkit, track pump, a spare 10sp chain and masterlink for Adam in case he needs it.

Does anyone have an esky that I can store meat in ?

I will be back after that for some afternoon/evening riding and am happy to cook a bbq hopefully at around 1pm (it may be 2pm pending traffic etc ...).

I can bring wraps, tabbouleh, hummus and some skewers for the bbq.

Numbers wise how much food do we need, Neil as you are also doing a bunch of baking we should probably get a list of people who are eating lunch (and other meals) ?

Cheers,
Dave

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Postby Neilm » 24 May 2016, 18:40

hey Dave i have a 45L camping fridge which will run off a pretty big battery i will be there until the guys finish so camp will probably need to be move up above the locked gate

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Postby Cwilliamson » 25 May 2016, 11:06

Adam,
I made a few calculations for the ride if you average 15min per climb.
One climb = 2.7Klm 204mtr 15min(maybe)
Meters/distance for Everest 117.11Klm, 8848mtrs, 650.59min/10.84hrs, 43.37 hill repeats
Hope to see you out there. :)

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Postby Cwilliamson » 25 May 2016, 11:33

Correction - I only calculated the uphill component! - total distance will be 236K and the time will be extended by the down hill (say 3min x 44 = (additional 2.2hrs) - total time 13hrs - all going well!!

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Postby p_mayson » 25 May 2016, 11:43

Mate - if you can do it in 13 hours - and I reckon you and Adam can - then you'll be home in time for dinner...

As for me, assuming no issues, I reckon it will take me closer to ~20 hours

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Postby Manny888 » 25 May 2016, 12:27

Wow - Sounds exciting looking at riding out from Marrickville at 6am with the others. Emanuel

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Postby Adam W » 25 May 2016, 13:46

Hey Craig - yep that is not too far off for a lap. I did 4 laps a few weeks back (https://www.strava.com/activities/561595493/)

Conservatively I'd guess about 20 mins up and down keeping your heart rate down (i.e. not chasing after every passing rider like a dog after a bone CRAIG!). Not sure exactly how fatigue might blow that out later in the day. So I'd say about 15hrs riding time. Craig may be an hour less, Paul could be an hour more (doubt it though).

I think it would be difficult/unpleasant not to have a cumulative 1hr off the bike after each 5hr block - especially given the delicious food that Dave and Neil are talking about (+ Michele's potatoes!). That brings it closer to 16-18hrs + any issues + socialising just a little ;)

Having said that, you will prob just smash the whole thing with barely 5 mins of breaks the way you smash 3 Peaks. Glad to have you join us.

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Postby Dave_Maywald » 25 May 2016, 14:04

guys, it's definitely worth consulting the Everesting Calculator... https://everesting.io/

I plugged in the segment from Strava called "Garie Beach Hill" and an ascent time of about 15 mins plus descent of about 3.30... both will likely get slower with more laps & fatigue

They assume an extra 2 mins per lap for breaks, etc...

The output includes average power needed for the ascent, which will give a good comparison to your FTP and the power you usually generate when doing long rides with climbs...

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Postby Adam W » 25 May 2016, 14:37

Cheers Dave. I don't have a power meter so don't know my FTP. 20 mins however is about 50% longer than my single lap. Strava estimates I did 220 to 280W on the 3 Alpine Classic climbs (my best comparison). That however includes "rests" between climbs and a third less total climbing. everesting.io says 181W for a 15 min climb. I think it sounds maintainable.

Pauly, you kept up on 2 of the 3 climbs with a few extra kegs on you (therefore higher power). Given that you're now closer in weight to me you are looking good. However we would need to subtract the power that your pinky finger was putting out and add the weight of your metal pin ;)

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Postby Manny888 » 26 May 2016, 20:54

Hi Guys I have decided to drive down and hopefully bring my bike. I will meet the bunch at 6am at Marrickville. If anyone wants me to drive anything down from marrickville, I can pick it up at 6am. I intend to bring alot of yummy food and drinks, also bringing tools, pumps etc. Hope to do a few repeats but will spend most of my time there helping support the event. Cant wait. Emanuel

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Postby JoTheBuilder » 31 May 2016, 11:40

So we saw the photos... But how did it all go?

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Postby Neilm » 31 May 2016, 21:21

One of the hardest things iv done

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Postby Neilm » 31 May 2016, 21:21

Oops watch being done

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Postby p_mayson » 01 Jun 2016, 13:31

This was always going to be a tough challenge

I'd never done any hill repeats before. So the idea of going up and down the same hill, for hours and hours… Well, I didn't quite know how I'd handle it… But thought I might as well give it a go and find out

Adam Ward and Craig Williamson were to attempt this as well. Two of the most talented climbers in the club, I had no doubts they would succeed

There'd been extraordinary interest from many of our club mates to participate in some way or another. And so, given that level of support, it was time for us to walk the talk

I got down there early. I wanted to get a head start on Adam and Craig: they're better riders than me, and I didn't want to fall too far behind too early

It was cold, dark and windy. The road, a challenging descent even in perfect conditions, was strewn with debris. "No mistakes, no mistakes" I kept telling myself, my hands clenching the brakes in between fits of shivering. But it was beautiful as well. Pure serenity. Eucalyptus howling in the wind, and shimmering constellations of stars. There was nowhere else I would rather have been

Adam and Craig joined me an hour later. We went at our own pace, grinding away, acknowledging each other with a nod of the head when we passed each other on the road. Dave Maywald started a couple of hours later, hoping to smash out a PB of 25 repeats. And Joel Waters, new to the club, was there as well

Michele Wood, our first support, arrived at dawn. She drove up next to me, offering warm drinks and electrolytes. I joined her for breakfast at Garie Beach picnic area shortly after, where she set up camp (our support centre)

Throughout the day, other club mates arrived, supported and stayed. Angelic soigneurs, each of them, principal among whom were Michele, Neil Moxham, Emanuel de Sousa and Dave Emerson. These guys really went above and beyond - in every respect - providing warmth, company and nourishment whenever we needed it

Cameron Anthes led a bunch from Marrickville, which arrived mid-morning, and it was uplifting to be accompanied by him, Peter Bownes, Diana Mullineux, Dave Brown, Laura Green, David Judson, Ben Smith, Adam Farrar, Chris Ganora and Renee Heinrich for an hour or so. Jarrad Schwark and Laura Turnley joined us in the afternoon. And Peter Nicoll, still on-call for work (albeit with patchy reception), came for the evening shift

Fatigue and monotony came and lingered. The rain came and went. Every few laps, we'd regroup down the bottom for rest and refreshments. We'd then do a "party" lap together, listening to Adam's portable Bluetooth speaker busting out some motivational tunes. Staying sharp mentally was always going to be key

We were thrilled to see Dave Maywald achieve his objective late in the afternoon. And, a few hours later, at ~9:30pm, we finally reached the top of Everest (45 repeats). Neil, Peter and Adam's wife (Rina) were there to see us finish. And our efforts have now been officially recorded for posterity: http://www.everesting.cc/hall-of-fame

As I reflect on this over the past couple of days, the thing that really stands out, for me, is the incredible support we received from our club mates. In particular, Michele Wood, Neil Moxham, Emanuel de Sousa and Dave Emerson - these guys gave up much of their day to support what many people would regard as a rather psychotic self-indulgence. They are legends, each of them. And so if you see them on the road, please tell them that, because they represent exactly what makes this club so special
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Postby Manny888 » 01 Jun 2016, 13:53

It was a pleasure to see you guys successfully complete such MAMMOTH task.

All I have to say is: "All for one and one for all"

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Postby Adam W » 01 Jun 2016, 14:55

Well said Paul. The support, especially from the four you mentioned, is definitely what sticks in my mind more than anything from Saturday (especially now that the legs have stopped hurting!). All in all a surprisingly enjoyable ride.

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Postby p_mayson » 03 Jun 2016, 10:04

With apologies for not mentioning Adam Farrar and Chris Ganora in the ride report. This has now been corrected

p.s. you guys should really get on Strava ;)

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Postby chris_ganora » 03 Jun 2016, 10:12

Haha!!....all good..

what is Strava?? ;-)

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Postby Strawburger » 13 Jun 2016, 14:20

I think you've started something

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Postby JoTheBuilder » 14 Jun 2016, 15:58

Yes, my mate is running that who coaches for CanToo. She actually sent it to me the week before DHBC's attempt and I had to let her know - too late!


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