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Postby mikesbytes » 28 Jul 2011, 20:32

Interesting that the results were different for females to males

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Postby krankee1 » 31 Jul 2011, 10:36

The problem with these studies is always the protocols. The responses from different age groups?, Effect on total capacity for work ? Response from semi trained or highly trained?. The use of the term increase in fitness is vague at best.The adaptations quoted may have already occurred in becoming highly trained An example of the problem of relevence, you can't use the weight training responses in 20yr old male elites for any age women or 35yr old masters , they are just different animals.

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Postby timyone » 01 Sep 2011, 11:33

Lance Armstrongs weights session?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDawlrIe ... re=related

Those side lunges hurt to hold!!! I had to hold one for yoga the other day and it sucked!!

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Postby Julio » 01 Sep 2011, 18:11

Going thru RNP audely in starting about 9:30 am Friday the 2nd if any wants to join

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Postby shrubb face » 05 Sep 2011, 08:08

My first long training ride of the year yesterday. I did waterfall then rode to the central coast via Bobin Head. Totalling just under 200kms.

Sadly feeling a bit sore this morning.
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Postby timyone » 05 Sep 2011, 08:38

good work chubsy :D

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Postby mikesbytes » 05 Sep 2011, 11:30

Perfect training for the Grafton

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Postby shrubb face » 06 Sep 2011, 10:55

http://vimeo.com/28585032

A little training inspiration for Timmy.

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Postby shrubb face » 06 Sep 2011, 11:18

On wednesday night we shall be practising jumping the white bike stands that we've got at the track.

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Postby Lizanne » 06 Sep 2011, 11:28

motivational speech
http://vimeo.com/27933991
"when you want to suceed as bad as you want to breath, then you will be sucessfull!"

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Postby timyone » 06 Sep 2011, 13:41

wow jumping with the weights! yeah I have heard going into plyometrics after the weights etc is good hey!

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Postby patn » 19 Oct 2011, 15:16

I was feeling like I had worked on and improved my endurance alot over the past 2-3 months since being sick during june/july, but I feel like my speed and sta.rting starts have suffered alot...so on monday I was working on my starts, and then tuesday practised starts again in centennial. felt fine on tuesday night, then today the lactic in my legs is soo bad!!i can hardly walk and they hurt to touch :( think I might give the track a miss tonight and do a really slow easy 20mins on the rollers or something... out of interest, how do you lot deal with really bad lactic the day after?! I usually try to drink lots of water, some easy active recovery.... Thoughts?

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Postby T-Bone » 19 Oct 2011, 19:34

It's not lactic, just DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness). Your body won't take that long to convert any lactic acid from your muscles back into something useful. DOMS generally occurs when you do something your body isn't used to (increase in training load, change in muscle usage, a cyclist going for a run, etc.), it may take a few days for the soreness to completely disappear, but it's nothing to be too concerned with.

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Postby Mikejnr » 12 Mar 2012, 11:37

some interesting stats from the west head race on Sunday morning. Things to note 3 hours sleep and copious amounts of alcohol will keep your heart from getting anywhere near max.



Avg Speed: 33.9 km/h
Max Speed: 67.3 km/h
Avg HR: 161 bpm
Max HR: 186 bpm
Avg Power: 295 W
Max Power: 948 W
Max Avg Power (20 min): 255 W

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Postby shrubb face » 12 Mar 2012, 16:51

When did you get a power meter?

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Postby shrubb face » 15 Apr 2012, 23:07

I'm currently trialing the Microsoft supported training scheme of staying up all night doing uni work then do intervals on the rollers at sunrise before sleeping for a couple of hours and going into work late. Controversial I know but someone has to trial these unique methods. Ill report back on my findings.

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Postby shrubb face » 16 Apr 2012, 03:13

Update, eyes are little sore (does that count as eye muscle training?) and legs are quite stiff. Possibly consider more dynamic stretching.

Food consumption whilst in the training phase has included 4 cups of tea (im out of coffee beans), 3 bananas, and two bowls of muesli and procrastination.

Music is always good for continued training motivation. Tonights selection has included, Tool, Foo fighters, Pink Floyd, Founder, Ash Grunwald, Newton Faulkner, The White Stripes, Puscifer and The Beards.

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Postby shrubb face » 16 Apr 2012, 04:18

Update 2:

Just bought and downloaded the new Founder album in glorious FLAC lossless quality. Motivation is currently high, 4 hours and 43 minutes left until submission is required.

Hip flexers a feeling a little tight, could be time for a stretching break soon, followed by a stair sprint. Current plan has been revised to leave home at about 7am, dropping in assessment and followed by some training laps of centennial.

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Postby timyone » 16 Apr 2012, 10:00

I have been wondering about running up stairs, I have also decided to go and get lost in the hills of Arncliffe Earlwood, possibly running up hills not riding though :p

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Postby Mikejnr » 08 May 2012, 17:20

Interesting new article about naturally produced drugs from endurance exercise.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/05 ... pad&f=1001

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Postby marc2131 » 18 Sep 2012, 09:51

Beet root - new super food.
Heard of the benefits of beetroot before. Yet another article on its benefits in sport, in the Sydney Morning Herald.

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/diet-an ... 26392.html

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Postby timyone » 16 Feb 2013, 10:38

Ok, I had 6 weeks off walking after knee surgery, can now walk with a limp after 2 weeks back, and plan on being a road cyclist within 3 months. So may be using this thread again!

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Postby Lizanne » 18 Feb 2013, 08:19

how is the knee? do you want to do a long ride?
the Bolton's and Will L are joining. touring pace

(From facebook)
http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/173422792
new route. i'm still planning a long one in the country on the 24th. i can't do overnight so here is the new plan
train leaves wolli creek @ 5:36 to Campbelltown.
then ride to Bowral, bakery stop, ride a few laps around the velodrome. ride to Robertson, lunch, pies maybe. then to the Kangaroo valley, hitting up in my opinion ( Rhys will second it) the best decent in Sydney. Ice cream/coffee stop, then up the hill to Berry. train home. maybe the pub...maybe more riding, depending on time weather and legs
pace will be touring pace, not too fast not too slow, Tom Bolton says minimum 25km/h unless he blows up. in that case we laugh and then help him go at his pace. If i blow up, tough.

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Postby timyone » 18 Feb 2013, 10:49

I don't think I will be doing any thing long for a couple of weeks, I have been doing half hour roller sessions and it has been stuffing me up. One of my legs actually looked like I had polio a couple of weeks ago, it was that thin! I am not sure how long it will take before I can ride 80km

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Postby timyone » 28 Feb 2013, 12:32

is this pedaling video actually useful for new riders? or just common sense?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1j1j0ttVPU

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Postby wallman » 24 Mar 2013, 17:45

Does anyone out there know anything about block periodisation? I'm not talking about online links, I'm interested in actual knowledge.
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Postby Eleri » 24 Mar 2013, 18:07

I learned about it in my Level 1 Coaching course and have subsequently read stuff about it. And I'm in the middle of a training program based on that at the moment.

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Postby wallman » 25 Mar 2013, 08:58

I'll have a chat to you next time we see each other, I have a couple of questions.

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Postby patn » 25 Mar 2013, 09:44

hey matty

for some reason periodisation theory has always been a special interest of mine. the original works on block periodisation
were done by the famous soviet track and field coaches (verkoshansky is usually referred to as the originator, but
there are lots of others e.g. bondarchuk), but i guess the famous work in the western literature is from issurin and is
called 'block periodization'. my copy of that has been lent out to a mate who is in melbourne. i would recommend
it though if you can find a copy. but among other books i have verkoshansky's famous book which has a lot on it which
you're welcome to borrow, and i have a number of more recent journal articles too you may be interested in. the rest of
my books in this stuff are probably more focused on weightlifting etc, so although very relevant since they invented and
developed the concept they may be of less interest to you. gimme a call if you like. if you are interested in periodisation
theory i recommend the strength sport websites (like elitefts, ironmind, westsidebarbell etc) which you can buy sportiveny
press books from (i.e translations of the soviet training manuals by all the greats like medvedyev, laputin, roman etc). strength
athletes are much more knowledgeable on the organisation of training than any other sport, so that is where to look if you
want to learn more.

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Postby wallman » 26 Mar 2013, 08:16

Hi Pat, thanks for the tips. I'll check them out.

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Postby marc2131 » 01 Aug 2013, 08:58

Got a questions about endurance training vs intensity type training.

Being the ignoramus that I am, I only discovered the 3 muscles types in the last couple of weeks. Been commuting for a decade now and have always pushed myself well above 70-85% exertion, hence I now deduce been largely training my type 2a (intermediate) and 2b (sprint) muscles.

However since joining DHBC found that I had trouble with long distance endurance rides and always put this down to a quick metabolism and the need to eat during longer rides. Now I believe it has something to do with my lack of endurance (type 1) muscle training i.e. hardly ever rode below 60% exertion.

These are assumptions at the moment. Anyone with a different take to this?

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Postby Strawburger » 01 Aug 2013, 12:11

Basically you have to build your engine for the appropriate task. Riding long slowish kms early in the season builds your endurance. Building top end power reduces your endurance so if you want endurance, slow down a bit.

As a guide, I ride 85% of my time at an endurance level

That's my take on it.

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Postby marc2131 » 07 Nov 2013, 08:53

Not sure if everyone read an article in the Sydney Morning Herald about a research team from Trondheim Uni (Norway) who claim to have discovered a pretty accurate way to calculate a person's VO2 max without having to do a very laborious full laboratory treadmill set-up. Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/diet-an ... z2juPMOe2N

Instead, the researchers found that putting just 5 measurements — waist circumference; resting heart rate; frequency and intensity of exercise; age; and sex — into an algorithm allowed them to predict a person’s VO2 max with noteworthy accuracy.

Try it out. It's almost too easy: http://www.ntnu.edu/cerg/vo2max

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Postby timyone » 09 Nov 2013, 15:02

Is that measurement legit? I started it, then was too lazy to measure my waist

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Postby Dougie » 15 Nov 2013, 09:56

it says I am "20". I have just dropped that grain of salt on to my chips and gravy.......

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Postby Jdubs » 15 Nov 2013, 12:25

haha yeah, I had a huge laugh with that one trying out different scenarios such has resting heart rate "0".

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Postby timyone » 20 Feb 2014, 12:38

http://www.cycleops.com/en/training/tra ... d-workouts

I am doing a bit of reading and this is one of the interesting reads

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Postby timyone » 27 Feb 2014, 18:40

http://www.analyticcycling.com/Topics.html

A bunch of different cycling related calculators

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Postby timyone » 10 Dec 2015, 00:11

http://www.menshealth.co.uk/building-mu ... ign=buffer

heres a great little article with video for weights training for roadies. It is Nathan Haas actually going through his routine.


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