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Postby shrubb face » 07 Feb 2012, 06:22

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cas-san ... terol-case

Pretty big news. This means he loses both the 2010 tour and the 2011 Giro.

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Postby Lizanne » 07 Feb 2012, 07:40

ya, but they back dated it so he still gets to keep the glory, and won't realy miss anything.

it seems like they gave him less than a slap on the wrist

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Postby simon.sharwood » 07 Feb 2012, 12:52

My understanding is that he had a level of clembuterol below the threshold regarded as cheating, so low that the ambient source excuse was plausible. Of course his previous association with Astana is also pretty suss, but some bloke called Lance also rode for that team ...
Shame for cycling either way, to have a champion brought down.
And also let's not forget a Schlek has now won the TdF. :cry:

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Postby weiyun » 07 Feb 2012, 12:58

Fair outcome given lesser known riders have been similarly punished for clenbuterol positivity. Even if it was unintentional, he'll regret for all the extra troubles of buying Spanish beef. Should have chosen more wisely.

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Postby weiyun » 07 Feb 2012, 16:02

I agree. This hopefully will be an effective warning to other drug cheats.

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Postby T-Bone » 07 Feb 2012, 22:13

I think Simon meant something more on the lines of the level of Clenbuterol detected was well below a clinically significant level (would have no effect on the body). The problem is the technology that detects these substances has become so good at detecting minute amounts of substances, while there has been no alteration in prohibited substance allowances through the introduction of threshold levels. When the no threshold was brought in for Cenbuterol and i'm sure other substances, i don't think the labs were able to detect minute amounts of substances like the amount detected in the Contador sample.

So, on the one hand, an amount detected that would have no effect, surrounded by tests with no amount detected, you could argue there was no performance enhancement (no need for the Spanish meat excuses). On the other hand there's the words "no threshold", which makes it pretty black and white... detected = banned.


One thing people can stop saying now is that Andy Schleck needs to learn to timetrial to win the Tour.

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Postby Karzie » 08 Feb 2012, 08:13

From following this slow-motion train wreck, my suspicion is that he had a blood transfusion during the race which still had a small amount of clenbuterol in it from the pre-race buildup. Woops. You don't risk taking banned substances in levels that don't have any effect! And you're not allowed to have blood transfusions either!

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Postby simon.sharwood » 08 Feb 2012, 12:33

In case anyone is interested, the full ruling is here: http://www.tas-cas.org/en/infogenerales ... 92-15-1-1/
Long story short, it says the steak theory is half-cooked, the concentrations of clembuterol found were way short of what was needed to be performance-enhancing, but that there is no evidence he was not at fault or negligent.

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Postby Stuart » 08 Feb 2012, 13:10

Saxo Bank general manager Bjarne Riis reiterated his unflinching support of Alberto Contador following the decision of the Court of Arbitration for Sport to hand him a two-year ban and strip him of the 2010 Tour de France title. However, the Danish ex-Tour champion stated that because Contador is no longer able to race, the contract between him and the Saxo Bank team will be annulled.
I wonder if Porte now wishes he'd stayed at Saxo?
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/riis-co ... espite-ban

Also, on the likely source of the Clenbuterol : Anti-doping expert Michael Ashenden was due to give evidence during the hearing as part of WADA’s case against Contador, but the Australian was denied.
“Hearing participants said Ashenden, if allowed, could have expanded on the theory that Contador may have had a blood transfusion on July 20, followed the next day by an injection of blood plasma,” AP reported.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wada-la ... tador-case

I mean, where did the plasticisers found in his blood come from?
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/plastic ... ransfusion

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Postby timyone » 12 Feb 2012, 11:01

Wow at the theory of Ian's. James, doesn't he still need time trivial to beat cadel?

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Postby Trouty » 12 Feb 2012, 18:25

It was an interesting interview tonight on cycling central with Anthony Tan and the doping expert dude. Both had little doubt on his guilt and were happy with the decision. The "expert" played down the possibility of the blood transfusion, although said of course this was possible, but the findings were that the Clembutoral was probably ingested some how, but highly improbable NOT due to meat. Given there was so few cases of this meat contamination in Spain and the technology is there to trace or find the source if required, they found him using this defence strange. There is probably so many other points to the story that we will never know - but for now a small victory!

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Postby Lizanne » 06 Mar 2012, 09:13

so getting updates on doping in Australia the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA) has issued this warning...
really?!?

http://asada.govspace.gov.au/2012/03/01 ... ated-meat/

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Postby Philip » 06 Mar 2012, 14:02

So.... exactly how much Chorizo do I need to eat to ride like Contador?

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Postby Karzie » 08 Mar 2012, 07:40

Hahaha... the chinese farmers are forgetting to take the wrapper off the cow-food for them! :)

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Postby weiyun » 08 Mar 2012, 08:03

Nay, no wrapper. Straight injection there in problematic areas. Just funny how the problem in the EU is soft played.


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