Club clothing

[christian]

Last night at the 100 yr birthday party we were discussing the possibility of getting some club clothing.

This could include t-shirts, which would be good for the Saturday Slowies people that don't want to shell out the $100 for a jersey as well as for the rest of us. I was also thinking of hoodies, which would be great for the cold winter nights down at the track and for any race where you want to show everyone who you ride for. We could also get some cycling caps made with a DH logo on the bottom of the visor.

The shirts and hoodies we can get made here, not so sure about the caps. I did a quick search and found a company in the USA that can do the caps with a reasonable minimum order of 25.

At this point I'd like to gauge the interest in doing this. The next step would to get the design together, do we want the new design or a retro design? Are there any graphic designers in the club? Any other suggestions?

[Adrian E]

Sounds good!

DHBC Inc. leader in urban cyclewear since 1908

[timyone]

im in for one of each definately want the hat

[timyone]

man i reckon we can rip it in retro stuff, it has to look retro though

[Simon Llewellyn]

Just to let you know guys, I'm new jersey order man. Grant handed me the job just before the baby came. I'm currently doing an order at the moment.

But in regards to skinsuites & even the possibility of knicks, I made an inquiry today. Skinsuites are going to cost approx $150 each, possibly slightly more for set up costs on any new design. We need a minimum of 10 though. Knicks will cost over $70 depending on what we are after...

[mikesbytes]

Simon did Lindsay mention that place in NZ that does small order batches? In that you can get a selection of things within the batch, so for example if the minimum order was 20 units, you could get 8 pairs of gloves, 4 pairs of knicks and 4 jerseys. I think Lindsay said that did other things like water bottles.

With the T-shirt idea, I would be happy with a simple design, something like the DH symbol on the shoulders. I would want a T-shirt that looked like some sort of Holden Dealer Team fan club apparel. Just keep it simple and classy.

[Adrian E]

I would want a T-shirt that looked like some sort of Holden Dealer Team fan club apparel. Just keep it simple and classy.

What does a Holden dealers apparel look like?

[micklan]

Holden gear ?

[timyone]

i want saturday slowies shorst that say you are now passing another saturday slowy, though plain shirts dont have pockets, is there any way we an find some that are good for riding?

im totally into the hats!!!

[christian]

I think we should definitely do the hats. It has the smallest outlay. We would be selling them at $15 each, this leaves a little in it for the club. All we need to do is get the design done and send it off. Lead time is 6 - 8 weeks. This of course depends on if we think we can sell 25, which is the minimum order quantity.

Doing shirts etc has an initial cost to get the screens made, so number of colours makes a diffence. We may be able to use the same screen to do multiple garments, ie, logo in the front of shirt and jackets.

I agree we should keep the design simple, a logo, our web address and may "since 1908", or something like "riding since 1908". We may want to write "Dulwich Hill Bicycle Club" on there somewhere as well.

[timyone]

for the hats i like just the dh in a circle on the front, then what ever you like any where else

[timyone]

Holden gear ?

are those lads all lighting each others smokes? we should make a pic like that!!

[Camilla]

I'd be very keen to have a t-shirt. Especially if, as people are suggesting, it was clean & simple. Although there is a certain huge appeal to "you are passing another Saturday Slowy".

Does it cost more to get girls' ones made up too or would small mens' do the trick? I think it important, btw, that the t-shirt itself be of good quality.

[williamd]

Camilla

Now that the pothole has been fixed and you won't be crashing there again you can wear a t-shirt keep it clean and keep the style police happy.

Although Mike prefers the Holden type , I agree with you that it should be clean and simple.

You only have to look at the Randwick jersy to see that the Sponsor name takes up most of the space and the club name is barely visible.

[weiyun]

Although Mike prefers the Holden type , I agree with you that it should be clean and simple.

You only have to look at the Randwick jersy to see that the Sponsor name takes up most of the space and the club name is barely visible.

Actually, we have a number of potential sponsors dying to sponsor our club and get their brands on our jerseys.

Druid Hill Baptist Church <http://www.dhbc.org/>
Downtown Halifax Business Commission <http://www.downtownhalifax.ns.ca/>
The Dead Hooker's Bridge Club <http://www.deadhookersbridgeclub.com/>
... And the list goes on.

[mikesbytes]

Christian, I'll have one of the caps you are planning to make.

[weiyun]

What's the functional value of a cycling cap when we already wear a helmet +/- bandana?

[mikesbytes]

What's the functional value of a cycling cap when we already wear a helmet +/- bandana?

Looks good

[weiyun]

Looks good

Look isn't functional.

[mikesbytes]

Look isn't functional.

Lets not let function get in the way of style

[christian]

The shirts are second on the list. Depending on the cost we may have to pre-sell some to get the screen masks made. I'm yet to find a screen printer, its on the list of things to do. We should be able to get both men's and women's shirts made.

There seems to be enough interest in the hats already so we can go ahead with this one. I will be brings the blank hat pictures down to the track on Monday night so we can work out a design, then it'll be over to our club graphic designer to do the art work. I'll get in contact with the manufacturer and work out the rest.

This is the company I found that can do it.
http://www.champ-sys.com/index.asp?init ... 0Customers

[micklan]

What's the functional value of a cycling cap when we already wear a helmet +/- bandana?

stops sunburn? are we talking those weanie tour d france caps or normal baseball caps?

[Adrian E]

There seems to be enough interest in the hats already so we can go ahead with this one. I will be brings the blank hat pictures down to the track on Monday night so we can work out a design, then it'll be over to our club graphic designer to do the art work. I'll get in contact with the manufacturer and work out the rest.

This is the company I found that can do it.
http://www.champ-sys.com/index.asp?init ... 0Customers

I agree. It would be great to get some caps. Anything to keep the sun of my balding head

Btw: I found this company that does smaller runs in wool.
http://www.walzcaps.com/index.html
Expensive, yes, but could be good for events like the next Fixie Century.

[Stuart]

Now here's an example of a cool design t-shirt that is good enough for even the very style conscious Joanne to buy and wear !

http://www.ducati.com/shop/product.jsp? ... dImp987532

[weiyun]

Now here's an example of a cool design t-shirt that is good enough for even the very style conscious Joanne to buy and wear !

http://www.ducati.com/shop/product.jsp? ... dImp987532

After that Ducati T-shirt, then just have to get this to go with it...

[FAswad]

Weiyun

You have commited the ultimate sin of insulting a cycling symbol of iconic status and are thus ordered to endure the torment of forty whips with a bicycle chain

In all seriousness now, I always wear a cap under my helmet.

1- It looks cool
2- It aborbs my sweat and wicks it away from my eyes, directing it towards the peak, where I can observe my efforts drip away, and count each drop as I suffer on a knee snapping climb when the need is greatest for something to distract from the pain in my limbs and the burn in my lungs;
3- It looks cool
4- It allows me to regulate body temperature. In winter it keeps me warm. In summer I douse it with water and the cooling effect is extended than without any head cover
5- It looks cool
6- It is as effective as any of the other more recent innovations that boast super-duper wicking cooling warming capabilities
7- It looks cool
8- It is a traditional piece of attire and I don it with pride

Did i mention it looks cool? I was thinking about trying to start a new fashion around wearing the cycling cap the same way people wear the baseball cap. What do you think?

You might find these an interesting read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casquette (note the reference to the cabbage leaf. As you know, this has already been extensively discussed on this forum)
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=196212
http://ask.metafilter.com/64432/Who-cam ... ooking-cap

Now lose that bandana and buy yourself a cycling cap

Be the part look the part.

[weiyun]

But, but... A bandana made of the right material does the job better!

[mikesbytes]

It's a matter of style, the cap will give me the French cyclist look where the bandana will give you the Ninga look.

So you should have less trouble with cages pulling out in front of you.

[Adrian E]

the bandana will give you the Ninga look.

Oh, yeah, I've heard of them bike ninja's
http://www.yehudamoon.com/index.php?date=2008-01-25

[Adrian E]

Ok, I've got a quote from the shop.

Hi Adrian-

Thank you for your email and your interest in Walz Caps. We make many caps for cycling clubs and teams and we hope to work with you too. As for the club name, that can easily fit onto two lines if you don't mind breaking it up into Dulwich Hill (on the top line) and Bicycle Club (on the bottom line). I suppose we could squeeze the whole name on one line on the side but I think the text would be too small to see clearly.

As for pricing, we like to help out cycling teams and clubs so we offer a 25% discount on orders of 10+. For example, if you wanted the embroidered four panel cotton cap, on an order of 20, the caps would be $13.50 each. If you wanted the embroidered wool four panel, they would be $22.50 each. Prices vary depending on they style (racing stripes are more) but you get the idea. There would also be a $10 shipping charge.

Let me know if you have any further questions or if you would like to order since the club discount pricing is not available directly on our website.

Thanks.
Jennifer Gilstrap
www.walzcaps.com

The minimum order is 10 for the 25% discount.
I'd be quiet happy to go wool.

Can I get any indication of how many people would be interested in getting a cap, and if the numbers are right, I'd be happy to put an order through.

Or, we could go with the people Kristian found.

[micklan]

2- It aborbs my sweat and wicks it away from my eyes, directing it towards the peak, where I can observe my efforts drip away,

Micklan = I'll order 2 caps please

I want to save my eyeballs from sweat torture - wick it away I say - this is the solution

[weiyun]

Oh, yeah, I've heard of them bike ninja's
http://www.yehudamoon.com/index.php?date=2008-01-25

Ummm... Anyone have any old 11 cogs lying around? Worn and sharpened teethes preferred.

[T-Bone]

I saw some champion stuff while in Tassie, and it seemed pretty good quality for the Jerseys and knicks, so expect the caps to be good too. However a woolen cap just has that bit extra. I guess i'd be in for 1 either way.

[FAswad]

is a wool cap a winter cap?

[mikesbytes]

Ummm... Anyone have any old 11 cogs lying around? Worn and sharpened teethes preferred.

You need the jockey wheels of my OCR

[timyone]

ive allready said it, but yeah im in for one of the itallian looking caps

[weiyun]

You need the jockey wheels of my OCR

I'll make a special point of collecting your retired jockey wheels.

[simon.sharwood]

I'm not entirely sure I want "DH" in a circle on the front of my head.
Anywhere else on my body, fine. But let's not give away one of the other interpretations of our initials so obviously!

[Simon Llewellyn]

I'll take one even if there is some hidden connotations...

[weiyun]

I'm not entirely sure I want "DH" in a circle on the front of my head.
Anywhere else on my body, fine. But let's not give away one of the other interpretations of our initials so obviously!

Good one!

[mikesbytes]

Its only a concern if your name is Richard

[geoff m]

I'll get a cap or two.

[christian]

Will wool be better then the synthetic material? After all, your jersey is synthetic. The woolen ones look to be embroyded, where as the synthetic ones are printed. The main difference there will be the complexity of the design, printing gives you more flexability.

What was the price on the woolen ones?

[FAswad]

isn't it that a wool cap can only be worn in winter?

[weiyun]

isn't it that a wool cap can only be worn in winter?

Apparently not. Thin wool garments are similar to modern sweat wicking synthetic materials in that they all have fine fibres that function similarly. I am not sure about wool's durability and ability to maintain shape though, especially those cheap ones. It may just take one rain and your baby will have his/her first cycling cap.

[T-Bone]

Maybe there's a possibility of ordering some of both cotton and wool, depending on what each person prefers, in which case i might get one of each, just so i won't miss out!

[timyone]

man im happy enough being a DH, im just glad im not in that BS club that rides around at the track

[Adrian E]

I'm keen to make an order through for caps soon.

I discussed the design with Simon, Tim and James and we thought that just a cotton red cap would be fine with the clubs name embroided in white on the side
see: http://www.walzcaps.com/caps_personalized_cotton.html
to get the basic idea.

As I don't have the finances to bankroll a large order, can I ask people who want caps to give me $20 for each of them. That should cover the costs of the caps with postage, and if there is any extra money, I'll be sure to put it into the club's finances. Trust me!

I'll be at slowies and on the waterfall ride this weekend, so see me then if your interested.

[geoff m]

Can't you get the money from Coral by Cheque (speak with Lindsay)?

Now that we have some money, we can order an inventory, so long as we think we will clear out most of these items (to which you've done your homework quite well).

We need to keep our accounting fairly consistent, and its easier on you this way.

Cheers

[FAswad]

is this the order thread? if it is i'm interested in 1 wool cap and one cotton.

[Adrian E]

Can't you get the money from Coral by Cheque (speak with Lindsay)?

Cheers

Excellent, that sounds much better. Then I'll confirm numbers and preferences for wool/cotton this weekend and get a list together. I'll speak to Coral once we've got the final numbers.

[Stuart]

Stuart & Jo x 1 cotton each - Cheers

[Gecko]

Hi,

I have only just discovered this club/forum and am keen to join for the soicial rides as I haven't contemplated racing yet.

I would like one of each if possible. Please let me know who I need to contact to pass on my money.

Cheers

[williamd]

Hi Gecko

There is the slowies ride tomorrow leaving Mazza's Bike shop at corner of Marrickville and Illawarra road Marrickville at 6,30am and going to Centennial Park and returning to Marrickville about 8.30am for coffee. Just turn up at 6.30am. There is no charge to ride with the club however if you wish to become a member there is a small joining fee. Ask for Lindsay.

There is also another ride this Saturday leaving Mazza's at 6.15am and going to Waterfall and return (85 k/m).This ride you will need a road bike as the average speed may be 28-30K/H.

On Sunday there is another ride to Waterfall return leaving at 6,30am at Mazza's.

Your welcome to attend any of the rides.

Hope to see you soon.


William

[othy]

I'll take 1 cotton cap and 1 wool cap (if wool is being done?).

[christian]

Put me down for one of each. Since these hats are not synthetic do we know how they will survive the washing machine? If they won't survive a wash you're not going to want to get them sweaty.

[Adrian E]

I usually just hand wash both my current cotton cycling cap and my wool jersey. I've never had any trouble doing it this way. I always handwashed my knicks and jerseys.

[Huw]

I just got my WalzCaps black and red-stripe wool cap in the mail. It looks pretty good. I'm tempted to wear it round the office, but I doubt whether my colleagues would really understand.

Customer service was excellent. Since I only ordered one, there was no postage charge. If you're lucky, I'll take a photo of it on my head and post here later on.

[Huw]

Some more pictures of these caps. This is a cotton one on some guy's head. WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THOSE SIDEBURNS?!?

[timyone]

hey im not totally sure about the getting pretty much just a red cap, that only really says dullich hill on the side in a smaller writing :S

But yeah i see the prob with having dh on the front, i personally dont care what else it stands for :S but yeah i can see it being a bit of a joke :S
im sure there must be some thing else wecould put on the dront, or on the brim.

[timyone]

man huw i really like how different you look with tht hat on, is it the sunglasses that make the big difference?

[T-Bone]

The hats look pretty good, maybe we do need a racing stripe down the middle

[Adrian E]

The hats look pretty good, maybe we do need a racing stripe down the middle

Black or white?

[mikesbytes]

White gets dirty

[T-Bone]

Black looks, better, but i'm thinking plain red is more inline with the club colour.... It's always too difficult deciding these things.

[Huw]

OK, I got the odd guy next door to model the cap for me. It's very comfortable. I note that the brim is a little larger than most, and constructed as floppy, rather than stiff.


As for colour, I reckon red with a black stripe down the middle.

[mikesbytes]

There's some caps in this race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvAdfqo43s0

[T-Bone]

I think the sideburns must come standard with the cap. We should probably check if they do a model without the sideburns just in case.

[weiyun]

Are there stick on sideburns? Can they be packaged with each cap?

[mikesbytes]

The 80's never really went away

[matt]

I'll take 1 red with black stripe, hold the 'burns.

[Adrian E]

Ok. I've let this one slip for a while and havn't been able to do the rounds on a sat or sunday ride to check up who is up for a cap. So far I've got all the people below:

Cotton

Mikebytes
Micklan x 2
James Fowler
Geoff M
FAswad
Stuart
Jo
Gecko
Othy
Christian
Matt
Adrian E

Wool

James Fowler
FAswad
Gecko
Othy
Christian
Adrian E

Also, do we have concensus that we'll go with the red cap with a black racing stripe?
Please speak up if you've missed out as I'd like to put an order before it gets any colder.

[simon.sharwood]

Put me down for one of each!

[micklan]

Adrian, r we going for the one Huw is modeling? I thought they were a little smaller and designed not for warmth but to wick away sweat?

"I note that the brim is a little larger than most, and constructed as floppy, rather than stiff".

will such an item do the job of wicking sweat away?

[weiyun]

Cotton and woolen would be good for cold winter rides. As we all know, cotton material has a saturation limit. Once reached, it can be outright annoying. If you want something good for wicking sweat away, try a bandana made of Coolmax or similar modern material. I would recommend Halo (haloheadband.com) and Burwood Cycleworld stocks them or try eBay.

[Adrian E]

Adrian, r we going for the one Huw is modeling? I thought they were a little smaller and designed not for warmth but to wick away sweat?

will such an item do the job of wicking sweat away?

I think Huw is best to answer this and I'm not sure if his hat is wool or cotton.

Irrespective, I think the main desire for the caps is warmth and fashion

[Simon Llewellyn]

Put me down for one of each, wool and cotton.

[micklan]

Irrespective, I think the main desire for the caps is warmth and fashion

Intangible = fashion. The Cars were fashion in 79 a year before fashion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMKQ7gMKUUE

[Adrian E]

I've put in the order.

[Huw]

Oh crap, I was hoping to order a cotton cap. I guess I only check these threads occasionally. Adrian, Is it too late to alter the order?

Did you know that, back in the day, one of the benefits of wearing a cap was having ready access to some kind of wipe in case you were in sudden need of the thunderbox?

I can vouch that cotton caps work well to remove sweat from your brow - once the brim is saturated, the sweat drips from the tip of the brim - much better than running into your eyes.

[mikesbytes]

Oh crap, I was hoping to order a cotton cap. I guess I only check these threads occasionally. Adrian, Is it too late to alter the order?

Did you know that, back in the day, one of the benefits of wearing a cap was having ready access to some kind of wipe in case you were in sudden need of the thunderbox?

I can vouch that cotton caps work well to remove sweat from your brow - once the brim is saturated, the sweat drips from the tip of the brim - much better than running into your eyes.

Huw, you sound keen. I'm happy for you to take my order. I'll get something next time.

[Huw]

Huw, you sound keen. I'm happy for you to take my order. I'll get something next time.

If that's OK with you, Mike, I really appreciate it. Thanks!

[mikesbytes]

If that's OK with you, Mike, I really appreciate it. Thanks!

No probs

[micklan]

A fall back is I ordered x 2 - but Adrian may have ordered extra in the sense of minimum orders perhaps

[mikesbytes]

If there's one left over at the end of the day, I'll buy it, but the reality is that I know I'll never wear it.

[Adrian E]

huw,

I havn't finalised the invoice or payment so we would probably slip one in. I'll try to slip a few more cotton caps in as they're cheaper and others may want to buy them later.

[micklan]

Mike - could you PM me Alan's shop phone number and address - thanks

[mikesbytes]

Mike - could you PM me Alan's shop phone number and address - thanks

Email sent

[Huw]

Thanks Adrian!

[FAswad]

Correct!

I can vouch that cotton caps work well to remove sweat from your brow - once the brim is saturated, the sweat drips from the tip of the brim - much better than running into your eyes.