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entered
Update: 80 entered in the first 5 mins!
Update: 80 entered in the first 5 mins!
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Can't see it, have I missed it?
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still spots left (about 40). did you hit refresh? Looking at 26th May?
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I'm in, its still there
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I'm in, gave up on the online system and after about 10 redials I got them on the phone, seems like a pretty shoddily run system to be honest...
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I paid with Commbank card too
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I tried entering 8 times, from 9am till 9.25. I rang up and was then told it was full.
I hate cycling nsw (replace hate with other 4 letter words). Im moving to Europe.
I hate cycling nsw (replace hate with other 4 letter words). Im moving to Europe.
oh no alex!
did you get put on the waiting list? if it's anything like last year ppl will be pulling out.
and don't move to europe. who will keep the pace line going smooth @ the track
and i'm in... don't know how i feel about it though
did you get put on the waiting list? if it's anything like last year ppl will be pulling out.
and don't move to europe. who will keep the pace line going smooth @ the track
and i'm in... don't know how i feel about it though
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It's a shame they can't create as much hype about entering any other CNSW event. Imagine how popular the sport would be.
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I kept hitting the F5 button (reload page) from about 8:58 to 9:00am. The event didn't pop up until bang on 9am.
I couldn't log on as Cycling NSW didn't update my rec lic to a racing one 
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I just called them after 9.00am and Andrew took my details to register
- happy days
then I called Cycling Australia to ask why my details haven't been updated and 2 minutes later I got a conformation email saying a new card will be re-issued and Margaret from Cycling Aust will contact Cycling NSW to make sure

so
I just called them after 9.00am and Andrew took my details to register
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then I called Cycling Australia to ask why my details haven't been updated and 2 minutes later I got a conformation email saying a new card will be re-issued and Margaret from Cycling Aust will contact Cycling NSW to make sure
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Entry was full at 9.13am
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So now that I've entered what exactly am I in for? 
I know that it's 90 km done as several laps of a course in Dapto but I don't really know the race, course or how it's run.
- It's handicapped but does everyone start at the same time and place? Will the DHBC group all ride out together or if we have different handicaps would that split us up?
- What's the average speed for such a race? So far I've only ridden criteriums which are super fast but short.
- What are the climbs in the course like? I have a compact crank and an 11-25 cassette on my race wheels, would I need to swap that to my 13-29 cassette?
- Do you generally carry spare tubes etc? For the crits we're not allowed to but I'd imagine for a long race like this one it might be wise to carry at least a spare tube and some CO2.
- Is it any good for spectators? My parents were thinking about going down to watch.

I know that it's 90 km done as several laps of a course in Dapto but I don't really know the race, course or how it's run.
- It's handicapped but does everyone start at the same time and place? Will the DHBC group all ride out together or if we have different handicaps would that split us up?
- What's the average speed for such a race? So far I've only ridden criteriums which are super fast but short.
- What are the climbs in the course like? I have a compact crank and an 11-25 cassette on my race wheels, would I need to swap that to my 13-29 cassette?
- Do you generally carry spare tubes etc? For the crits we're not allowed to but I'd imagine for a long race like this one it might be wise to carry at least a spare tube and some CO2.
- Is it any good for spectators? My parents were thinking about going down to watch.
Do a search. There's been one discussion thread each past year and you'll be able to find out a lot through them.
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The climb is not that difficult, the difficulty is ensuring you are not dropped on the hill
naw you do the nervous pee before the race, and I thought it was like waterfall (last year was my first ever road race), but it totally isn’t. There are no traffic lights, the extra 10k is a killer, and it’s game on the whole time. It’s a hard race, but oh so much fun
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Hung, its like doing Waterfall without stopping. 2 water bottles and a some energy gels are all you need.
Here are some tips for beginners I learned from the internet and hanging out at Cheeky.
Tape your energy gels to the top tube and set your Garmin for 15 minute alerts. This reminds you to eat and drink and let's everyone around you know how on top of things you are. Relieve yourself as you ride along - mid pack, no one will care, its only yellow water really. A sleeveless jersey will also help you look experienced, but the sign of a true pro is some compression calf socks. You might have to execute a bike change throughout the race due to your zipp 1080s are too wind effected, so write your race number on your arms with big black nikko.
Hopefully this is of some use to you guys.
Tape your energy gels to the top tube and set your Garmin for 15 minute alerts. This reminds you to eat and drink and let's everyone around you know how on top of things you are. Relieve yourself as you ride along - mid pack, no one will care, its only yellow water really. A sleeveless jersey will also help you look experienced, but the sign of a true pro is some compression calf socks. You might have to execute a bike change throughout the race due to your zipp 1080s are too wind effected, so write your race number on your arms with big black nikko.
Hopefully this is of some use to you guys.
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Wow look at that list, we have done well in such a short entry window
Elite
BURNS, Andrew
DE SOUSA, Danny
EDWARDS, Rhys
EMILSEN, Adrian
WALLMAN, Matthew
WILMOT, Lizanne
M1
BJARNOE, Taylor
M2
BERRY, Simon
STEPHENS, Tim
TSALLAS, Nick
M3
HUYNH, Hung
MATTES, Andrew
M4
MARTIN, Geoff
M5
CLEMENT, Michael
As I'm the oldest rider, I'm assuming I'll be off limit
Elite
BURNS, Andrew
DE SOUSA, Danny
EDWARDS, Rhys
EMILSEN, Adrian
WALLMAN, Matthew
WILMOT, Lizanne
M1
BJARNOE, Taylor
M2
BERRY, Simon
STEPHENS, Tim
TSALLAS, Nick
M3
HUYNH, Hung
MATTES, Andrew
M4
MARTIN, Geoff
M5
CLEMENT, Michael
As I'm the oldest rider, I'm assuming I'll be off limit

i'm planning on a bright and early (i'm thinking first tain out) train ride down to dapto to do hill repeats. i wanna do every gear i have and find which one i like the best. i only have 15 of my gears working and a few in the big ring are just not gonna happen, so maybe 10 the great big hill.
if this sounds like a fun saturday, you'r more than welcome to join.
otherwise, Adrian and I will be going one saturday later in april, when he's free.
if this sounds like a fun saturday, you'r more than welcome to join.
otherwise, Adrian and I will be going one saturday later in april, when he's free.
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I'm interested but incapable unless my replacement buckles for my shoes arrive before then, they should be here by tomorrow as I ordered them nearly 2 weeks ago now but we will see...
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Andrew, I can lend you some shoes in your size
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Mike, thanks but I have some very special magic heel wedging and cleat shimming stuff happening with my shoes that I don't want to disturb. Doesn't matter anyway, just tried my shoes on again and although one of the buckles is broken it still works, just the nice little lever part that's snapped off.
5:20 am ugh
I'd have to leave my house around 4:50 at the latest assuming I drive to Wolli Creek. How fast do people go up this hill anyway? Any idea of gradients and speeds?
5:20 am ugh

Where would you be meeting there Lizanne? I might drive down and meet you at Dapto high school, we could do a reccy of the whole course one time if someone knows the route?
I can't do this saturday as I'm a fair bit off a decent level of fitness, and I would like to be in good form for a realistic approach to the course. I also have other stuff on. Good idea though.
I can't do this saturday as I'm a fair bit off a decent level of fitness, and I would like to be in good form for a realistic approach to the course. I also have other stuff on. Good idea though.
Why do you guys need to go all the way out to Dapto to do hill repeats? The stiff hill is around 40m in elevation change. And given the repeated rolling hills on that course, loops of RNP would provide equal if not better training. As for recon, there'll be 3 laps of the course and nothing too much happens on the first two. By then, you'll be sufficiently familiar with it and be ready to "die" on the last run up it - If you are still around.
http://www.strava.com/rides/ken-dinnerv ... 011-644491

http://www.strava.com/rides/ken-dinnerv ... 011-644491
i have nothing to do on saturday, and i like it out there.
plus i want to ride the course a few times so i know where the turns and pot holes are. then i want to be able to see landmarks on the hill and figure out when and where i can push for the KOM, without totally burning myself out.
@ rhys, i'l be leaving my place, cnr of the princess hwy and brodie spark drive, and then riding 500m to the train station.
you doing the ride tomorrow in centenial, we can chat about when a better time will be good for you.
plus i want to ride the course a few times so i know where the turns and pot holes are. then i want to be able to see landmarks on the hill and figure out when and where i can push for the KOM, without totally burning myself out.
@ rhys, i'l be leaving my place, cnr of the princess hwy and brodie spark drive, and then riding 500m to the train station.
you doing the ride tomorrow in centenial, we can chat about when a better time will be good for you.
I agree with Weiyun, I see no point in riding the actual course. Its a terrible road surface. Its not a matter of learning where the pot holes are more like where they are not, I like to describe this course as every now and again you'll hit a smooth patch.
Apart from pot holes, you'll also collect a quantifiable amount of cow dung along the way. It's just not the first choice for a weekend training ride. 

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There seems to be a lot of people taking this race very seriously....... You'll reassess your priorities whilst your trying to hold onto the back of scratch.
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Don't wear a skin suit, its not a TT so you'll look like a fool. You use your race wheels at this race if you don't like them and want to buy some new ones, read previous post about the terrible surface. If you're running clinchers then I'd go a slightly lower tyre pressure like 90 or 100psi, it'll make the ride much nicer.
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mid length adds weight
If your got enough riders for your training ride, it would be worthwhile doing a paceline while your there.
BTW I don't give a S*** about what people think of what I'm wearing, so I'm exempt from christian's comment, which is correct
If your got enough riders for your training ride, it would be worthwhile doing a paceline while your there.
BTW I don't give a S*** about what people think of what I'm wearing, so I'm exempt from christian's comment, which is correct
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Might get my nails done again
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Going to have to give Dapto a miss, way too much to do around the house for me to be riding all weekend
I'll go the next time people go down though.

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Hey Strawbuger, any chance I can arrive in style?
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Urgh turns out I might have something else on that weekend and I don't know which to go to :S
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Any ideas on when the handicaps will be published? Just checked the cnsw website and nothing has been posted yet
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i was about 10 min too early on that last post!
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I'll bring the lollies if you bring the fizzy drink! 

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Adrian can bring the fairy bread. Geoff can bring the sparklers, who's going to bring the jumping castle though?
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Summary of Handicaps
Bunch 5 8:30 mins (Limit + 21:30 mins)
WALLMAN, Matthew Elite Men Dulwich Hill BC
Bunch 7 14:00 mins (Limit + 16:00 mins)
CLEMENT, Michael MMAS5 Dulwich Hill BC
Bunch 8 17:30 mins (Limit + 12:30 mins)
EDWARDS, Rhys Elite Men Dulwich Hill BC
STEPHENS, Tim MMAS2 Dulwich Hill BC
Bunch 9 22:30 mins (Limit + 7:30 mins)
BERRY, Simon MMAS2 Dulwich Hill BC
BJARNOE, Taylor MMAS1 Dulwich Hill BC
BURNS, Andrew Elite Men Dulwich Hill BC
DE SOUSA, Danny Elite Men Dulwich Hill BC
EMILSEN, Adrian Elite Men Dulwich Hill BC
MARTIN, Geoff MMAS4 Dulwich Hill BC
WILMOT, Lizanne Elite Women Dulwich Hill BC
Bunch 10 30:00 mins (Limit + 0 mins)
HUYNH, Hung MMAS3 Dulwich Hill BC
MATTES, Andrew MMAS3 Dulwich Hill BC
TSALLAS, Nick MMAS2 Dulwich Hill BC
Bunch 5 8:30 mins (Limit + 21:30 mins)
WALLMAN, Matthew Elite Men Dulwich Hill BC
Bunch 7 14:00 mins (Limit + 16:00 mins)
CLEMENT, Michael MMAS5 Dulwich Hill BC
Bunch 8 17:30 mins (Limit + 12:30 mins)
EDWARDS, Rhys Elite Men Dulwich Hill BC
STEPHENS, Tim MMAS2 Dulwich Hill BC
Bunch 9 22:30 mins (Limit + 7:30 mins)
BERRY, Simon MMAS2 Dulwich Hill BC
BJARNOE, Taylor MMAS1 Dulwich Hill BC
BURNS, Andrew Elite Men Dulwich Hill BC
DE SOUSA, Danny Elite Men Dulwich Hill BC
EMILSEN, Adrian Elite Men Dulwich Hill BC
MARTIN, Geoff MMAS4 Dulwich Hill BC
WILMOT, Lizanne Elite Women Dulwich Hill BC
Bunch 10 30:00 mins (Limit + 0 mins)
HUYNH, Hung MMAS3 Dulwich Hill BC
MATTES, Andrew MMAS3 Dulwich Hill BC
TSALLAS, Nick MMAS2 Dulwich Hill BC
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Compared to last year
Name - 2012 - 2011
WALLMAN, Matthew Elite Men Dulwich Hill BC - Bunch 5 8:30 mins (Limit + 21:30 mins) - 9 mins (Limit + 21 mins)
CLEMENT, Michael MMAS5 Dulwich Hill BC - Bunch 7 14:00 mins (Limit + 16:00 mins) - 14:30 mins (Limit + 15:30 mins)
STEPHENS, Tim MMAS2 Dulwich Hill BC - Bunch 8 17:30 mins (Limit + 12:30 mins) - Limit 30 mins (0 mins)
BERRY, Simon MMAS2 Dulwich Hill BC - Bunch 9 22:30 mins (Limit + 7:30 mins) - 23 mins (Limit + 7 mins)
MARTIN, Geoff MMAS4 Dulwich Hill BC - Bunch 9 22:30 mins (Limit + 7:30 mins) - 23 mins (Limit + 7 mins)
WILMOT, Lizanne Elite Women Dulwich Hill BC - Bunch 9 22:30 mins (Limit + 7:30 mins) - Limit 30 mins (0 mins)
TSALLAS, Nick MMAS2 Dulwich Hill BC - Bunch 10 30:00 mins (Limit + 0 mins) - Limit 30 mins (0 mins)
Name - 2012 - 2011
WALLMAN, Matthew Elite Men Dulwich Hill BC - Bunch 5 8:30 mins (Limit + 21:30 mins) - 9 mins (Limit + 21 mins)
CLEMENT, Michael MMAS5 Dulwich Hill BC - Bunch 7 14:00 mins (Limit + 16:00 mins) - 14:30 mins (Limit + 15:30 mins)
STEPHENS, Tim MMAS2 Dulwich Hill BC - Bunch 8 17:30 mins (Limit + 12:30 mins) - Limit 30 mins (0 mins)
BERRY, Simon MMAS2 Dulwich Hill BC - Bunch 9 22:30 mins (Limit + 7:30 mins) - 23 mins (Limit + 7 mins)
MARTIN, Geoff MMAS4 Dulwich Hill BC - Bunch 9 22:30 mins (Limit + 7:30 mins) - 23 mins (Limit + 7 mins)
WILMOT, Lizanne Elite Women Dulwich Hill BC - Bunch 9 22:30 mins (Limit + 7:30 mins) - Limit 30 mins (0 mins)
TSALLAS, Nick MMAS2 Dulwich Hill BC - Bunch 10 30:00 mins (Limit + 0 mins) - Limit 30 mins (0 mins)
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I'm putting my money on Strawbuger to be the first DHBC rider home
Race report.
Started well in bunch 9 despite dragging along a fair amount of bludgers.
Didn't make it over Marshal Mount the third time and retired from race. Disappointing performance but am happy that I know where I have to work on.
The only issue is how?
Always next time.
Started well in bunch 9 despite dragging along a fair amount of bludgers.
Didn't make it over Marshal Mount the third time and retired from race. Disappointing performance but am happy that I know where I have to work on.
The only issue is how?
Always next time.
In lieu of a detailed race report (the duty to do this falls to Adrian as the best placed DHBC rider!) here are the club results:
First of all the finish order:
http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/site/cycl ... 0order.pdf
Place 16 Adrian EMILSEN GROUP 9 (7:30 handicap) Time: 2:22:37
Place 53 Matthew WALLMAN GROUP 5 (21:30 handicap) Time: 2:11:21
Place 67 Tim STEPHENS GROUP 8 (12:30 handicap) Time: 2:20:23
Place 101 Michael CLEMENT GROUP 7 (16:00 handicap) Time: 2:21:45
Place 113 Simon BERRY GROUP 9 (7:30 handicap) Time: 2:33:06
Place 115 Geoff MARTIN GROUP 9 (7:30 handicap) Time: 2:46:09
Then the individual times:
http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/site/cycl ... 0order.pdf
Place 40 Matthew WALLMAN GROUP 5 (21:30 handicap) Time: 2:11:21
Place 86 Tim STEPHENS GROUP 8 (12:30 handicap) Time: 2:20:23
Place 89 Michael CLEMENT GROUP 7 (16:00 handicap) Time: 2:21:45
Place 91 Adrian EMILSEN GROUP 9 (7:30 handicap) Time: 2:22:37
Place 113 Simon BERRY GROUP 9 (7:30 handicap) Time: 2:33:06
Place 115 Geoff MARTIN GROUP 9 (7:30 handicap) Time: 2:46:09
And here are the finish photos (there is a great one of Geoff in the second who looks exceptionally relaxed!):
http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/site/cycl ... to%201.jpg
http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/site/cycl ... to%202.jpg
You will need to zoom right in then scroll across.
First of all the finish order:
http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/site/cycl ... 0order.pdf
Place 16 Adrian EMILSEN GROUP 9 (7:30 handicap) Time: 2:22:37
Place 53 Matthew WALLMAN GROUP 5 (21:30 handicap) Time: 2:11:21
Place 67 Tim STEPHENS GROUP 8 (12:30 handicap) Time: 2:20:23
Place 101 Michael CLEMENT GROUP 7 (16:00 handicap) Time: 2:21:45
Place 113 Simon BERRY GROUP 9 (7:30 handicap) Time: 2:33:06
Place 115 Geoff MARTIN GROUP 9 (7:30 handicap) Time: 2:46:09
Then the individual times:
http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/site/cycl ... 0order.pdf
Place 40 Matthew WALLMAN GROUP 5 (21:30 handicap) Time: 2:11:21
Place 86 Tim STEPHENS GROUP 8 (12:30 handicap) Time: 2:20:23
Place 89 Michael CLEMENT GROUP 7 (16:00 handicap) Time: 2:21:45
Place 91 Adrian EMILSEN GROUP 9 (7:30 handicap) Time: 2:22:37
Place 113 Simon BERRY GROUP 9 (7:30 handicap) Time: 2:33:06
Place 115 Geoff MARTIN GROUP 9 (7:30 handicap) Time: 2:46:09
And here are the finish photos (there is a great one of Geoff in the second who looks exceptionally relaxed!):
http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/site/cycl ... to%201.jpg
http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/site/cycl ... to%202.jpg
You will need to zoom right in then scroll across.
Things i learnt on sunday
1. I hate road races. they are too long
2. the hills i have been doing really paid off.
3. It's hard work when half the bunch slacks off
4. I need to manage my asthma better
5. I need to do it again next year... and not get dropped
Bring on the track season
1. I hate road races. they are too long
2. the hills i have been doing really paid off.
3. It's hard work when half the bunch slacks off
4. I need to manage my asthma better
5. I need to do it again next year... and not get dropped
Bring on the track season
things I learnt on Sunday
1) someone owes me money as I was the first DHBC rider to get dropped on first hill
2) other riders don't really want to chit chat while racing
3) A month off the bike ( due to injurys of course ) prior to the race does not help
4) remember to yell out EASE UP when your on your limit
5) actually do 90km training rides and not 50km ones and think she'll be right
1) someone owes me money as I was the first DHBC rider to get dropped on first hill
2) other riders don't really want to chit chat while racing
3) A month off the bike ( due to injurys of course ) prior to the race does not help
4) remember to yell out EASE UP when your on your limit
5) actually do 90km training rides and not 50km ones and think she'll be right
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