2010 Flat Tyre Competition
- mikesbytes
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Definition: Requirement to replace tube/single due to its inability to maintain air. Valve failure is accepted.
Traveling requirements: Wheel must be ridden on, to deem it to be a separate flat
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Get Flat tyre
0 male
1 female
Repair own flat tyre, ie change the tube or single
1 male
1 female
mikesbytes and jimmy only get 1/2 point (handicap)
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Repair another DHBC riders tyre, ie change the tube or single
1/2
Patch your own tube
1/2
Patch your own single
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Lend another DHBC rider a tube
1/2
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Someone else repairs your tyre, ie replaces the tube or tyre
-1/2 male
-1/2 Camilla, Jessica, Amy, Joanne, Victoria
0 other female
Lindsay or Al changes your tube (additional penalty)
- 1/2 male
-1/2 Camilla, Jessica, Amy, Joanne, Victoria
0 other female
Don't return the tube within 14 days
-1/2
Cause of flat is patch failure
-1
Pinch the tube putting it on, even if its someone else doing it for you
-1/2
Ride without a spare tube, pump, leavers (if required), spanner (if required)
-1 (total per ride where flat occurred)
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* Purchasing Points
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Points can be transferred between members, however there is a $1 per point transfer fee.
Points can be purchased for $10 per point
Please PM me for the account details where the purchasing costs can be deposited
Traveling requirements: Wheel must be ridden on, to deem it to be a separate flat
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* Basic Points
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Get Flat tyre
0 male
1 female
Repair own flat tyre, ie change the tube or single
1 male
1 female
mikesbytes and jimmy only get 1/2 point (handicap)
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* Bonus Points
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Repair another DHBC riders tyre, ie change the tube or single
1/2
Patch your own tube
1/2
Patch your own single
2
Lend another DHBC rider a tube
1/2
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* Penalty Points
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Someone else repairs your tyre, ie replaces the tube or tyre
-1/2 male
-1/2 Camilla, Jessica, Amy, Joanne, Victoria
0 other female
Lindsay or Al changes your tube (additional penalty)
- 1/2 male
-1/2 Camilla, Jessica, Amy, Joanne, Victoria
0 other female
Don't return the tube within 14 days
-1/2
Cause of flat is patch failure
-1
Pinch the tube putting it on, even if its someone else doing it for you
-1/2
Ride without a spare tube, pump, leavers (if required), spanner (if required)
-1 (total per ride where flat occurred)
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* Purchasing Points
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Points can be transferred between members, however there is a $1 per point transfer fee.
Points can be purchased for $10 per point
Please PM me for the account details where the purchasing costs can be deposited
Last edited by mikesbytes on 19 Jan 2010, 11:59, edited 2 times in total.
2010 started with a bang after holding out just 1 single flat in 2009.
First ride in 2010 and got hit by a front flat, all within striking distance of the Waterfall turn around. A nice shard of glass retrieved from the tyre. Then tonight, patched the punctured tube and while in the process of putting the old tube back, the new tube on the wheel was found to have a broken valve core. So it's bin the new and back with the old. 2.5 points in one go.
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First ride in 2010 and got hit by a front flat, all within striking distance of the Waterfall turn around. A nice shard of glass retrieved from the tyre. Then tonight, patched the punctured tube and while in the process of putting the old tube back, the new tube on the wheel was found to have a broken valve core. So it's bin the new and back with the old. 2.5 points in one go.
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- mikesbytes
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Of course, we don't discriminate on relationship status, only genderSo if you "borrow" a tube from you boyfriend (or significant other), does the same tube returning rates and penalties apply?
I have no idea how it happened but I went to pump my tires up last night before this mornings ride and I had a front flat. Checked the tube, no air but when I took it out and pumped it up it stayed inflated...weird. So I checked the tire, nothing hmm so I changed the tube anyway.
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Ok, so someone may be able to work out what my score is from this story...
My track bike had no tyres on the wheels as I'd pilfered them for the road bike. Patched two punctures as all my tubes have holes in them and went to put them on the bike with some old tyres before training tonight. Couldn't get the tyres on as my thumb is too weak since breaking it. Take the whole lot down to track and have Alex roll the tyre onto the wheel. Alex starts pumping and it gets a pinch flat - we have no levers so use the ones in the track toolbox. I don't have any more spare tyres. Borrow one from Christian. I get both tyres to the point where it needs the last bit rolled on and get Lindsay finish it off. I do all the pumping at this point.
My track bike had no tyres on the wheels as I'd pilfered them for the road bike. Patched two punctures as all my tubes have holes in them and went to put them on the bike with some old tyres before training tonight. Couldn't get the tyres on as my thumb is too weak since breaking it. Take the whole lot down to track and have Alex roll the tyre onto the wheel. Alex starts pumping and it gets a pinch flat - we have no levers so use the ones in the track toolbox. I don't have any more spare tyres. Borrow one from Christian. I get both tyres to the point where it needs the last bit rolled on and get Lindsay finish it off. I do all the pumping at this point.
- mikesbytes
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Othy, as you have a broken thumb, we could make you an honorary female for the duration of the period while the thumb is broken, so lets go thru the score
*****Basic Points
Get flat tyre
0 - male
1 - female
That would be 2 points, however as the front wheel would of hit the taxi before your thumb, we will have to classify you as a male for the front wheel and a female for the second flat, so that's 1 point
Repair Own flat tyre
1 - male
1 - female
As you didn't repair your own flat, that's 0 points
*****Bonus points
Patching own tube
0.5 points * 2 = 1 point, so your up to 2 points
*****Penalty Points
Someone else repairs your flat and Lindsay repairs flat. As you are classified as an honorary female and you are not Camilla, Joanne, Jessica, Amy or Victoria, you get zero penalty
Pinch Flat
- 0.5 points, that takes you down to 1.5 points
*****Purchased points
As no money has been received, no bonus points can be allocated
So that makes it 1.5 points for you and 0.5 points for Christan. However if you don't return the tube within 14 days, you will loose an additional 0.5 points
*****Basic Points
Get flat tyre
0 - male
1 - female
That would be 2 points, however as the front wheel would of hit the taxi before your thumb, we will have to classify you as a male for the front wheel and a female for the second flat, so that's 1 point
Repair Own flat tyre
1 - male
1 - female
As you didn't repair your own flat, that's 0 points
*****Bonus points
Patching own tube
0.5 points * 2 = 1 point, so your up to 2 points
*****Penalty Points
Someone else repairs your flat and Lindsay repairs flat. As you are classified as an honorary female and you are not Camilla, Joanne, Jessica, Amy or Victoria, you get zero penalty
Pinch Flat
- 0.5 points, that takes you down to 1.5 points
*****Purchased points
As no money has been received, no bonus points can be allocated
So that makes it 1.5 points for you and 0.5 points for Christan. However if you don't return the tube within 14 days, you will loose an additional 0.5 points
Last edited by mikesbytes on 12 Jan 2010, 03:35, edited 1 time in total.
Hrmmm, I don't really understand what you're daying here Mike...
I got my track bike out of the car last week and discovered it had a flat. I borrowed a random velocity wheel to get me through training that night. I utilised one of Simon's tubes to swap with my flat one and am adding it to the "to patch" box.
Now, thus far I see myself on two points, with no penalty and will accrew a further 1/2 point upon tube repair.
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...so I've been a little hesitant to score my situiation.Of course, we don't discriminate on relationship status, only gender
I got my track bike out of the car last week and discovered it had a flat. I borrowed a random velocity wheel to get me through training that night. I utilised one of Simon's tubes to swap with my flat one and am adding it to the "to patch" box.
Now, thus far I see myself on two points, with no penalty and will accrew a further 1/2 point upon tube repair.
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I had a total of eight flats during the tour de Disneyland. One on 25th Dec, and seven on 1st Jan 2010 (that too within the first 65km of the 200km stage from Launceston to Bicheno).
This tiny shard of glass was responsible for two flats. It was so tiny that it escaped undetected when I inspected the tire first time.
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This tiny shard of glass was responsible for two flats. It was so tiny that it escaped undetected when I inspected the tire first time.
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- mikesbytes
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Lying in bed this morning I heard a loud hissing noise and sure enough the rear on the fixie had gone flat. First half point
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What kind of romps have your bikes been up to in the room next door overnight?Lying in bed this morning I heard a loud hissing noise and sure enough the rear on the fixie had gone flat.
I start the year with a bang, flat last night on the way home, no spare, so walked the last part of it. Patched last night, new tube in this morning, lasted all of about 1km, when it went off, it blew the bead off the tyre, so the tyre is a write off as well.
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- mikesbytes
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Hi James, isn't that 1.5 points
- 0.5 for first flat
- 0.5 for patching
- 0.5 for second flat
- 0.5 for first flat
- 0.5 for patching
- 0.5 for second flat
If we get 0.5 points for patching, then it should be 2.5 points. I patched 5 tubes that night.
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- mikesbytes
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Doesn't look like the half point handicap is going to stop you James
Did you puncture all 5 tubes this year? Or are they carry overs from past decades?If we get 0.5 points for patching, then it should be 2.5 points. I patched 5 tubes that night.
- mikesbytes
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Well done Jess, you deducted the 1/2 point penalty for getting Lindsay to change your tube.
I'll have to think of ways of making the 2011 comp more complicated.
I'll have to think of ways of making the 2011 comp more complicated.
Shhh... That's a secret. The award is for the most number of points at the end of the year.What tyres are you guys/girls running to get so many punctures?
Edit: is the goal to get the least amount?
I patched them this year, when I got the flats is irrelevant.Did you puncture all 5 tubes this year? Or are they carry overs from past decades?
Maybe I will become a scab this year, and pick up tubes that others are going to throw away so I can patch them. Easy way to get points...
James
I'll update a few people here. On the 3 day tour I got one flat, Victoria got 3 where I changed two of them, Camilla got two where I changed both of them. If you want to clock up some points just go on a tour and fix flats for other people.
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Actually according to the rules I think I should be on 3 points. +3 for getting the flats, +1 for changing one myself and -1 for Christian changing two of them.
Better patch those tubes to score some extras...
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Better patch those tubes to score some extras...
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Blatant sexual discrimination.Why do girls get a point for getting a flat?
I'm wondering if Jessica's points are out by 1/2 a point, as there's a special penalty for the sporty females
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How does the patching of tubes from 2009 work?If we get 0.5 points for patching, then it should be 2.5 points. I patched 5 tubes that night.
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Are you taking this competition too seriously?ummm mike i think you have gone a bit far with this comp. I reckon swap it all to just a how many you have, one each, nothing else. Buying points and having different people worth different points is totally off the plot?!!@?!
After failing to score a single point in 2009 due to having Gatorskin tyres and only doing about 3000k's a year, I've rocketed into the charts. Feel free to correct these as It's so confusing with all the plus and minus and girls and boys and ....
Sat Slowies: lent new rider Lou (fem) a tube and changed her flat - 1 point?
Sun Crusiers: changed Ted's flat for him (he had tube but no pump) but had help from Michael (don't know his last name - one of the seemingly endless Michael's - long time club member). I took the wheel and tyre off and pulled out the tube; Michael inserted new tube and pumped the tyre & I put the wheel back in - do I get any points for this? .25 maybe? I haven't claimed any.
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Sat Slowies: lent new rider Lou (fem) a tube and changed her flat - 1 point?
Sun Crusiers: changed Ted's flat for him (he had tube but no pump) but had help from Michael (don't know his last name - one of the seemingly endless Michael's - long time club member). I took the wheel and tyre off and pulled out the tube; Michael inserted new tube and pumped the tyre & I put the wheel back in - do I get any points for this? .25 maybe? I haven't claimed any.
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If anyone is silly enough to pay real $$$ for points in this competition, then they well deserved to "win" the competition. Sounds quite appropriate to me.i hadnt read it at all, havent had a flat, but the fact that you can buy points sounds like its a bit off the point.
Or maybe you should read it all first.
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The rules don't specifyHow does the patching of tubes from 2009 work?
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It's all about figuring out how to win. Jimmy has found a hole in the rules and is doing a magnificent job of exploiting it. Eventually he will run out of tube and/or patches and then you'll trump him as he's on a half point handicap.ummm mike i think you have gone a bit far with this comp. I reckon swap it all to just a how many you have, one each, nothing else. Buying points and having different people worth different points is totally off the plot?!!@?!
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Are tubeless clinchers mentioned in the rules? Looks like your out of luckI've got around 10 tubes to patch, so i should get started.
How many points do i get for patching a tubeless clincher?? you get points for tubes and singles, so surely you can't discriminate against tubeless.
Your aversion for flats has been awarded with a -25 head start!How many points do i get for patching a tubeless clincher?? you get points for tubes and singles, so surely you can't discriminate against tubeless.
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There ya go, winning is all about capitalising on the ruleTook another look, seems as though it'll be 1 point, but no bonus points, as according to the rules, Repair own flat tire = 1 point for males.
Please, please people - this is Australia and the word is spelt tyre NOT tire!Repair own flat tire = 1 point for males.
Edit: and if you're using Firefox then you can download an Australian spell checker here >> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3099
Then right click in the message body window and click on languages and select Australia - say NO to yank spelling.
Last edited by Stuart on 19 Jan 2010, 13:12, edited 1 time in total.
Have been riding with out spare tubes, minus one for ever time i have been riding this week. Im counting the track too>
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- mikesbytes
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Tim, I clarified the meaning of the ride without the correct stuff penalty. Its only if you get a flat. Your score corrected.
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Could be a long walk homethats ok i guess, i can lose two or so points every time i get a flat
Some of the rule changes have been to encourage responsibility and environmental friendless. I chucked a tube the other day that could of been patched and afterwards I thought... "dam that tube was worth a 1/2 point"
whoops
didn't see that rule about not carrying the correct stuff.
When I flatted the other week, I wasn't carrying a spare tube, but I did have tyre levers and a puncture repair kit, but I decided to walk it anyway. Is that a penalty?
The next morning, I did have a spare tube, but the tyre got destroyed. I wasn't carrying a tyre, so is that a penalty?
James
didn't see that rule about not carrying the correct stuff.
When I flatted the other week, I wasn't carrying a spare tube, but I did have tyre levers and a puncture repair kit, but I decided to walk it anyway. Is that a penalty?
The next morning, I did have a spare tube, but the tyre got destroyed. I wasn't carrying a tyre, so is that a penalty?
James
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Absolutely and a smack on the wrist as wellwhoops
didn't see that rule about not carrying the correct stuff.
When I flatted the other week, I wasn't carrying a spare tube, but I did have tyre levers and a puncture repair kit, but I decided to walk it anyway. Is that a penalty?
The next morning, I did have a spare tube, but the tyre got destroyed. I wasn't carrying a tyre, so is that a penalty?
James
Flatted on the M5 this morning. There's so much glass and metal on the road.
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adjustment as per my previous post
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Another rear flat on the fixie. Once again it went flat after I got home. Cause a small piece of green glass. Saved the tube, if I'm in the running near the end of the year, I might do some patching
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A flat at slowies, I'm beginning to think my new tyres aren't very good... Miguel didn't an excellent job of fixing my flat, thank you!
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Ran over a bike on the velodrome at about 50kph, pinch flat in front, not the best way to earn another half point.
Breakdown by tyre for 2010;
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Breakdown by tyre for 2010;
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LOL, you and Jess are fluttering your eye lashes too muchTwo flats on Sunday. I kind of fixed some of it, but Christian is so much faster at it.. Do I get any points for half fixing my own flats?
I'll take that as a no.
So I get 2 points for getting the 2 flats, but I will have to deduct one of those since I was not carrying a pump on the ride. Slackeerrrr.
Btw, both the flats were due to shitty rim tape on the wheels.
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So I get 2 points for getting the 2 flats, but I will have to deduct one of those since I was not carrying a pump on the ride. Slackeerrrr.
Btw, both the flats were due to shitty rim tape on the wheels.
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Flat on Sunday on the way back to Sutherland station. Think i ran over glass and must have been a sign to stop riding for the day.
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Do you think you deserve the 1/2 point
Was that for you or for the whole group?Breakdown by tyre for 2010;
2 Gator skins
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To make that meaningful, it should only register punctures through the tyre. Flats due to tube damage by other sources should be excluded from that count.
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That's my breakdown
Honestly? Not really. Because I was standing there with my hands on my hips half the time, and in my head a voice was saying "You know Victoria, you could really be doing this yourself"... But another voice was fighting back "But he's nearly finished it... He can do it without any levers... You'll just take half an hour"Do you think you deserve the 1/2 point
My efforts of removing the tube on the first flat and putting air in the second aren't really worth much at all.
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Christian got to learn that if he fixes your flats then Camilla is going to walk away with victory this year.
Found bike with a flat and a big chunk of glass in the tyre when getting ready for work. Repaired by me *flutters eyelashes*
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I gave a class on patching tubes where I assisted and supervised my pupil in this task. Said pupil kind-of repaired 3 of my tubes. What does this mean for the points tally??? Are the points mine if I was the tutor?
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I gave a class on patching tubes where I assisted and supervised my pupil in this task. Said pupil kind-of repaired 3 of my tubes. What does this mean for the points tally??? Are the points mine if I was the tutor?
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Perhaps we should build that into the 2011 rules, I'm always looking for ways to make the competition more complicated, so we can argue, um I mean have healthy debate.I gave a class on patching tubes where I assisted and supervised my pupil in this task. Said pupil kind-of repaired 3 of my tubes. What does this mean for the points tally??? Are the points mine if I was the tutor?
Now lets look at the rules...
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Patch your own tube
1/2
So you don't get any as it says you have to patch it yourself.
Now what about penalty points, when someone does it for you...
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Looks like your in luck, no penalty points, cos I didn't think of that one, will have to pad up the rules in 2011
Never mind, after I've solved world peace, I'll prefect the points system for the flat tyre comp
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Thinking about it, did you demo a patching? you could count that one
Hrmmm, I held utensils pre-glue stage, demonstrated how to remove the selofane backing, then fixed this situation on all 3, then added extra glue adhesive to demonstrate just how stuck down it needs to be. And the tubes and patches were my own.
How about bonus points for lessons? If anyone else needs classes...
How about bonus points for lessons? If anyone else needs classes...
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Sounds like you deserve them. Does anyone disagree?
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Good point orphic were Rainbow's students DHBC members?
Flat tyre yesterday morning, pouring rain, while in the middle of the Anzac bridge bikeway. Worst change experience ever, made a bit more bearable by the new Lezyne road drive pump (had to get one after using T-bones last year). Traffic was at a near standstill so I imagine a few drivers got some amusement from the comfort of their cages. Perhaps there needs to be a wet bonus....
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Yes, of course!
I am an elitist, DHBC only
I have club love
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I am an elitist, DHBC only
I have club love
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2 just before Waterfall, in same place, within 100metres. Found the piece of glass the second time. Thanks Amy for being there when I got the second flat, as I only had one tube.
Good reason why one should always carry two I suppose
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Good reason why one should always carry two I suppose
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Did you give amy a 1/2 point for lending a tube?
Woke up for the randwick ride this morning and had a flat as a result of a valve leak.
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Not my week so far. Flat on the fixie yesterday due to glass. Flat on the tourer today - cause remains a mystery. Concerns me the amount of flats I have had on touring bikes considering I leave for Tassie on Friday... Perhaps I am jinxed?
Fixed both myself (Christian wasn't there this time...), and even patched and re-used the same tube for the tourer.
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Fixed both myself (Christian wasn't there this time...), and even patched and re-used the same tube for the tourer.
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Two flats today. One in the morning (but discovered in the afternoon) and one in the afternoon again. One front, one rear... What a week.
Rim tape has now been replaced on the touring bike which will hopefully mean some flat free riding...
Fixed one myself, the other one happened to be just as I pulled up to Stanmore cycles to purchase a chainring and Bob kindly changed that one for me.
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Rim tape has now been replaced on the touring bike which will hopefully mean some flat free riding...
Fixed one myself, the other one happened to be just as I pulled up to Stanmore cycles to purchase a chainring and Bob kindly changed that one for me.
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Vic, are you trying to win the competition within the first 2 months of the year?
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Girl power will still need to defeat Timyone and perhaps Jimmy if he patches enough tubes
I just spent the last half hour rolling up the 'to be patched' tubes that have been in the 'to be patched bin' for eternity. I won't tell you how many there are, it's quite embarrassing... But good to hear it will earn me some points
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This thread is encouraging us to be more environmental, though it seems we are saving the ammunition for a victory in December
OK, after 2 - 4000 km for the year so far (maybe more), i had my first flat which i was preparidly under prepared for, leaving every thing at home but making sure Anthony was stocked up he is now my source for every thing
I started by borrowing a tube off anthony, which i dont plan on returning,so thats up to one point We have made arrangements that dont require me giving him tubes, but hes still happy enough I didnt bring a spanner or the like for my fixie either, which makes it a slight miracle that this some how worked, as he doesnt ride a fixie, im assuming he was carrying that too
I was wearing white today, and didnt want to get dirty, if you saw how dirty my bike is, even touching the seat was making my clothes messy, so in turn got anthony to change the tube too. Im not that good at those mechanical things any way, and the lads we were with were impatient and we needed a mechanical expert like anthony on the job
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I started by borrowing a tube off anthony, which i dont plan on returning,so thats up to one point We have made arrangements that dont require me giving him tubes, but hes still happy enough I didnt bring a spanner or the like for my fixie either, which makes it a slight miracle that this some how worked, as he doesnt ride a fixie, im assuming he was carrying that too
I was wearing white today, and didnt want to get dirty, if you saw how dirty my bike is, even touching the seat was making my clothes messy, so in turn got anthony to change the tube too. Im not that good at those mechanical things any way, and the lads we were with were impatient and we needed a mechanical expert like anthony on the job
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Michelle from SSCG got 2 flats on the Adventure ride. I fixed the first one and Weiyun fixed the second one, using a patch, however you only get points for patching your own tube. So points from that are
SSCG_Michelle (what's her forum name?) 2
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Got another flat on the fixie rear on Monday. If you exclude the pinch flat I got on the track bike, all of my flats this year have been from the same wheel on the same bike. Thinking about putting a tyre liner in that wheel
Mikesbytes 0.5
Breakdown by tyre for 2010;
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0 GP4000
0 GP4000s chilli
1 Supersonics
0 Pro2race
Hardly a dent in orphic's stunning lead
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Got another flat on the fixie rear on Monday. If you exclude the pinch flat I got on the track bike, all of my flats this year have been from the same wheel on the same bike. Thinking about putting a tyre liner in that wheel
Mikesbytes 0.5
Breakdown by tyre for 2010;
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Flat down at the track on Monday and fixed it up yesterday night hopefully all good for tonight.
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She wears a DHBC jerseyIs SSCG Michelle a dhbc member?
First Waterfall ride back and I get a flat after the turn around. Middle of the paceline while I'm on the fast side, steering got a little wobbly, managed to get out of it without incident. Thanks to Paul for stopping and then for the tow home.
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Where are all the points scored by the Tassie Warriors?
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Good special on tubes at T7, with 60mm valves. Last time around I brought 20.
http://www.torpedo7.com.au/products/C6TU7NN60
http://www.torpedo7.com.au/products/C6TU7NN60
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+1 (1/2 point)
Almost a month since my last flat (15th Feb)
Glass on the motorway north of SHB
Breakdown by tyre for 2010
3 Continental Gator skins
0 Continental GP4000
0 Continental GP4000s chilli
1 Continental Supersonics
1 Michelin Pro2race
0 Veloflex Record
My commute K's have had a significant increase, so I should be here more often
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Almost a month since my last flat (15th Feb)
Glass on the motorway north of SHB
Breakdown by tyre for 2010
3 Continental Gator skins
0 Continental GP4000
0 Continental GP4000s chilli
1 Continental Supersonics
1 Michelin Pro2race
0 Veloflex Record
My commute K's have had a significant increase, so I should be here more often
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Go jump again!You can put me down for two flats so far this year... but I was prepared to let someone do it for me but the people I was with told me to go jump.
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Hi Peter, can you copy the list into your post and put yourself in. Ta Mike
One to me on my way to Waterfall. Does Micklan get 0.5 points for helping change it?
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I have 4 flat tyres to claim. Two were on the Tassie tour. The first one just went flat fortunately for me just before we headed down a very big hill. Less fortunately for Huw who rode back up the hill to find out what had happend to me but Stretch had helped me fix it. The other one just went flat and Geoff S fixed it.
Back in Sydney I found a flat in the pm check before an early ride - it was probably a spoke poked through the rim so I taped the rim and replaced the tube. Pinched the tube, replaced it with a poorly patched tube that wouldn't inflate. Swore lots. Successfully replaced that, by now sweating and very late. Next morning, ran over something near Cronulla and the whole thing went bang, now a small hole in the tyre. Replaced the tube, reinforced the tyre with plastic insert to get by. Now have a new kevlar tyre and new tube (on the bike I was going to spend no more $$ on). Patched one tube along the way.
Given that I'm not a named female then I reckon I get 4 points for the flats, Stretch gets 1 and Geoff S gets 1. I lose 1 for the failed patch and 1/2 for the pinch, but get 1/2 for the one I properly patched.
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Back in Sydney I found a flat in the pm check before an early ride - it was probably a spoke poked through the rim so I taped the rim and replaced the tube. Pinched the tube, replaced it with a poorly patched tube that wouldn't inflate. Swore lots. Successfully replaced that, by now sweating and very late. Next morning, ran over something near Cronulla and the whole thing went bang, now a small hole in the tyre. Replaced the tube, reinforced the tyre with plastic insert to get by. Now have a new kevlar tyre and new tube (on the bike I was going to spend no more $$ on). Patched one tube along the way.
Given that I'm not a named female then I reckon I get 4 points for the flats, Stretch gets 1 and Geoff S gets 1. I lose 1 for the failed patch and 1/2 for the pinch, but get 1/2 for the one I properly patched.
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http://dhbc.org.au/forum/viewtopic.php? ... sc&start=0One to me on my way to Waterfall. Does Micklan get 0.5 points for helping change it?
Got another on the way back from Waterfall on Sunday, I'm getting better at changing tubes with all this practice !
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2 assists and 1 explosion in the garage = 2 points
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