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Postby timyone » 10 May 2011, 11:47

ok on the nineteenth of june there is a state road team time trial championship on. If you are interested in riding, please post in this thread, talk to James fowler or Alex Chubb, or some one that seems to know what they are doing.

There is a possibility of us having an A team, and a Beer team, which will be Elite level, that will be harder to enter, these teams will probably not be organised at all on the forum, so if you think you want to be in one of them, have a talk to me, simon, james or Alex.

For other teams will we have our ever sexy Valley Wheelers? is there a girls elite and vets side? any one else? triathlete team?

http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/cy_nsw/ra ... uote]Event No:11098 NSW Club Team Time Trial Championships
Promoter: Cycling NSW
Event Date: Sunday 19 June 2011
Venue: Park Rd & Forbes St Goulburn (Eastgrove Park North)
Closing Date: Sunday 05 June 2011
No Late Entries
Start Time: 9:30am
Races: JM17 Team Time Trial -22.1km
MMAS (150+ years) Team Time Trial - 44.2km
MMAS (All Ages) Team Time Trial - 44.2km
Elite Women and Masters Women Team Time Trial - 44.2km
JM19 Team Time Trial - 44.2km
Elite Men Team Time Trial - 88.4km
Categories: JM17, JM19, JW19, U/23, Elite Men, Elite Women, Men Masters, Women Masters, Team
Entry Fee: $30 JM17
$60 JM19
$60 JW19
$60 U/23
$60 Elite Men
$60 Elite Women
$60 Men Masters
$60 Women Masters
$60 Team
Prize Money: Cycling NSW Medals
Contact: Cycling NSW Office ph:(02) 9738 5850
Information: Clubs can enter more than one team per category.

$30 per U17 team and $60 for all others please contact Cycling NSW with your nominated riders by Monday 6th June 2011.

Distances and start times are approx. only
Competitors are required to sign on at least 30mins before the start time.

Note: Elite Women's Team may include U/19 Women

Only Vehicles fitted with a rotating yellow light and
"Caution Cyclists Ahead" signs that conform with the RTA guide lines for road racing, will be allowed to follow their team.
NO OTHER VEHICLES WILL BE ALLOWED IN THE RACE CONVOY
Due to the number of teams entered Cycling NSW will not be able supply any lights or signs to any clubs.

Cycling NSW Technical Regulations
64 - NSW - CLUB ROAD TEAMS TIME TRIAL CHAMPIONSHIP.
d) The NSW Championships Road Teams Time Trial is open to all affiliated clubs of the NSWCF.
e) A minimum of three (3) Club teams for each Championship category is necessary before a championship can be conducted.
f) Each club may nominate one (1) or more teams for each Championship from which four (4) members will be nominated for each team on the day of the event.

Men�s Masters All Age Division.
� Clubs may enter their best Masters / Elite 30+ team in the �All Ages Division� irrespective of age.
Men�s Masters 150+ years Division
� Minimum cumulative age of the three (3) youngest Masters / Elite 30+ riders is to be 150 years.
Clauses: 64 - NSW CLUB ROAD TEAMS TIME TRIAL CHAMPIONSHIP. (Technical Regulations).

g) To be eligible to compete in the CNSW Club Teams Time Trial Championship each rider shall be an affiliated financial member of the club they represent and have not competed in any OPEN or CHAMPIONSHIP event for another club during the current road season (1st April to 30th September).

h) Members must be financial with their competing club/Cycling New South Wales two calendar months before the event, and must produce their Race License at the event.

Please contact the NSW office immediately if your name does not appear in the team start list

Competitors representing their club in NSWCF State Clubs Teams Pursuit or Road Teams Time Trial Championships must wear their Club registered colours or Team sponsored colours as endorsed by their Club and NSWCF Management Committee.[/quote]
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Postby Lizanne » 10 May 2011, 12:02

i just built up a bike for the elite women's team!
talk to people about training and racing @ the track on wednesday?

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Postby timyone » 10 May 2011, 12:04

yep sounds good

theres a plus 150 team in there, do we have the numbers for a competative plus 150 team>? Josh? we would have Matt Walman, but hes going for the elite.

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Postby mikesbytes » 10 May 2011, 13:02

Duplicate thread Tim, already posted

http://www.dhbc.org.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2407

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Postby timyone » 10 May 2011, 13:05

oops

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Postby mikesbytes » 10 May 2011, 13:12

Hey Tim, I recon DHBC could go to as many as 4 teams, even more
- Elite MA
- Elite WA
- Elite MBeers
- MM150-
- WM150- Perhaps Camilla, Joanne, EMT, Michelle
- MM150+, already entered (Mark L, Mark M, Craig W, Mike C)
- MMBeers (what did you call them?)

I think we can drive down in the morning, do the race and drive back, so no accom costs

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Postby Richard » 10 May 2011, 13:59

I have a box trailer with racks for 5 bikes on it if anyone needs to transport lots of bikes on the day. Plenty of room for all the gear underneath the bikes.

You just need a towbar.

Let me know

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Postby JoTheBuilder » 21 May 2011, 09:39

Lizanne, I'm in! If you still need me... Free that weekend.

I have a bike rack for 2 bikes. 3 at a push with a weird extension piece I have...

Next time I see you we'll swap details.

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Postby Stuart » 21 May 2011, 17:09

which thread shall I lock?

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Postby mikesbytes » 21 May 2011, 17:39

Lock this one

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Postby timyone » 31 May 2011, 15:32

lol this ones more recent!!
how is every one going with this? do we have teams?

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Postby mikesbytes » 31 May 2011, 15:41

I've already entered a team, as noted in the other thread

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Postby Stuart » 31 May 2011, 15:56

Lock this one
Ha - missed this - apologies Mike - I've locked the other one now as this one has more posts. You can copy paste your post from that one I guess.

Note that entries close this Sunday 6th June 2011 - you better get in quick - and buy some very warm winter woolies too !

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Postby mikesbytes » 31 May 2011, 16:00

I'll get round to it after I've solved world peace

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Postby Johnj » 04 Jun 2011, 20:35

I've checked and it appears that the time trial will start from Eastgrove Park North, down Forbes Street, then left into Bungonia Road. After crossing the freeway this becomes Windellama Road. Continue along Windellama Road until the U-turn at Dewsbury Lane (it's not marked on the map, but presumably it is the road leading south at about the 22km mark), then back the same way. Total altitude gain to the U-turn is about 90 metres over the 22 km, with two very small downhills.

This is part of the Bungonia Loop, maps on MapMyRide and Bikely.

See you all there.

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Postby Eleri » 05 Jun 2011, 13:38

This is part of the same route as the Masters Women's road race a few weeks ago. If it is anything like the day we road, there was a savage cross wind that beat everyone up and always appeared like a head wind. You might want to practice riding in an echelon. The inclines, although appearing small, still took their toll. Particularly for people who weren't sheltered from the wind.

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Postby mikesbytes » 05 Jun 2011, 17:50

Entries close tonight

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Postby Karzie » 05 Jun 2011, 20:32

Go the Dawdlers!

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Postby shrubb face » 05 Jun 2011, 20:43

Entered.

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Postby timyone » 06 Jun 2011, 12:13

how hilly is it?

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Postby mikesbytes » 06 Jun 2011, 12:15

What distance is elite? is it 40 or 80?

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Postby T-Bone » 06 Jun 2011, 13:12

Elite Men is 88.4km, according to Cycling NSW.

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Postby mikesbytes » 06 Jun 2011, 14:16

I think you are doing the road racing course I did at the NSW champs. Something like Ken Dinnerval, but one lap

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Postby T-Bone » 06 Jun 2011, 23:06

I think we're doing same as you but twice, they wouldn't use an extra section due to the extra marshalling required. Looking at the cycling NSW website, all distances are multiples of 22.1km, which according to johnj is the turnaround point.

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Postby mikesbytes » 06 Jun 2011, 23:12

Then the course is undulating with no large hills. Wind could be a problem

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Postby mikesbytes » 15 Jun 2011, 16:03

Start times by category are up (not individual teams)

http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/site/cycl ... 0times.pdf

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Postby Toff » 15 Jun 2011, 18:52

I'd just like to confirm that the Valley Wheelers have a team entered in this. I have no idea whether we are in the plus 150 category, or the open masters category, but we are in. Just so we're clear, our team will have no timetrial bars, no disk wheels, no tri spokes, no v shaped rims, no teardrop helmets, no skinsuits, no carbon fibre frames, rims, seatposts, or nuthin'. Instead we will have steel bikes, downtube shifters, and thermoses of tea in our bidon cages (which will be on our downtubes, not behind our saddles, except for one which may possibly be mounted on the handlebars).

I was also going to say that we won't have any newfangled clipless pedals either, but I discovered that John, who will be riding his first official club race with us, and has never owned either clipless pedals or shoes, has invested in a set for the big race day. So while the rest of us, who do use clipless pedals a bit are going back to toestraps for the day, John will be clipping in to some shiny new SPDRs. :mrgreen:

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Postby mikesbytes » 15 Jun 2011, 21:02

Your in Open Masters Toff

OK, exact start times are out;

9:30 DHBC EM-5
LLEWELLYN, Simon EliteM
LLEWELLYN, Timothy EliteM
SLEZAK, Ondrej EliteM
KAFKA, Michal EliteM
LESTER Joshua EliteM

9:34 DHBC EM-4
CHUBB, Alexander U23M
FOWLER, James EliteM
WALLMAN, Matthew EliteM
NGUYEN, John EliteM

There's only 5 elite teams so I'm expecting you guys to bring home the medals.

9:58 DHBC EW-4
WILMOT, Lizanne © EliteW
ARMSTRONG, Aimee EliteW
LLEWELLYN, Jessica EliteW
SKINNER, Joanna EliteW

Even better for the girls, there's only 4 elite teams

11:08 DHBC AA-26
MUNKS, Lindsay © MMAS5
HARRIS, Christopher MMAS3
TREGILLAS, Peter MMAS6
JOHNSON, John TimeTrial

30 Teams, good luck guys, your ranked 26th


12:20 DHBC M+ 6
CLEMENT, Michael © MMAS5 1961
LACEY, Mark MMAS5 1961
WELLER, Craig MMAS5 1961
MASTERSON, Mark MMAS5 1958

10 teams, we have been ranked 6th

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Postby NOOG » 15 Jun 2011, 22:58


9:34 DHBC EM-4
CHUBB, Alexander U23M
FOWLER, James EliteM
WALLMAN, Matthew EliteM
NGUYEN, John EliteM
I'm out of this team....buggered my knee 2 weeks ago and it hasn't recovered.
Josh Lester is in.

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Postby T-Bone » 16 Jun 2011, 14:55

I'm out of this team....buggered my knee 2 weeks ago and it hasn't recovered.
Josh Lester is in.
I was going to check if you were still out. Looks like i'm digging out some form. 6 uni exams in 4 days this week hasn't helped my too much (nothing but studying, exams, and not enough sleep), but i'll take my legs out for a spin tomorrow afternoon.

Hopefully you'll be better for some long training rides in July.

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Postby Stuart » 16 Jun 2011, 19:15

I'd just like to confirm that the Valley Wheelers have a team entered in this.
So, is that the DHBC-Valley-Wheelers then or is that just a term of affection :?

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Postby Peter T » 16 Jun 2011, 19:18

More Valley Wheeler news.

The moustaches this year have been cultured from one of Fausto Coppi's last nasal hairs, and look delightful.

Will bring them in their Petri dishes.

This afternoon, I had a look at the TTT route via Google's "Course Fly-By Video" from Lizanne's post above.

Seemed a very fast way of doing the TimeTrial, but I was continually surprised by the amount of off-road racing involved.

Still, that will sort out the pretenders.

It also seemed extremely cold and windy, even sitting here sipping tea in front of the heater..

Somebody tried to tell me it was going to be held near Goulburn, but that can't be right, not in mid June.

Anyway, happy that so many DHBC are giving it a go.

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Postby mikesbytes » 19 Jun 2011, 19:14

Race Report - NSW Club Team Time Trial (TTT) Championships

DHBC 150+ Team
Michael Clement (captain)
Mark Masterson
Mark Lacey
Craig Weller

Location Golburn NSW, lets call it cold-burn. Conditions were cold and windy, on a dead semi hilly road.

Seeded 6th by NSW Cycling, we were giving a 12.20pm start (teams 2 minutes apart), pefect for a warm start - NOT. When we had arrived at 9.45am there was no wind, but by midday the wind was pretty strong and cold. The decision was made as to what to wear and I rugged up, only to change my mind 10 minutes later and take one item off.

0-10k
We were working well together making good progress when at 8k Mark M declared that that he couldn't go on, we asked him to sit on the back but he said it was quits and pulled off, leaving 3 of us

10 -22.5k (turnaround)
About 15k, Craig started to have problems, we told him to stay on the back while Mark L and I shared the work. We caught the team in front of us, but they got a flat just as we approached them. I don't understand why they stopped, there were 4 of them and you only need 3 to finish.

22.5k - 41.5k
Mark L and I took up roles, so to focus on Craig's pace. Mark L kept a close eye on Craig, while I punched a hole thru the wind. For the return journey I did all the work on the front apart from 3 turns of about 1k or so by Mark L to give me a short rest. Mark L had to keep yelling at me to slow down, he was doing an excellent job of protecting Craig. At 41k I red lined and Mark L took the 3rd short turn, I recovered straight away and went back to the front.

41.5k - 45k
Craig was seriously wasted, I had gone too quick on the flat section (say 38k - 41.5k) and the bridge over the freeway became a hill for him, we were so close but he was on death row. All I could do was sit in front, while Mark L and I provided as much wind protection as possible. We were close to getting the next team in front of us, it was like a carrot on a stick, but I couldn't do anything about it.

So we had done one team in front of us and nearly a second. No teams overtook us, but it appeared to me that the team behind us had gained ground, so what was our result;
1h12m to place ourselves 4th out of 10 teams. One place outside a NSW medal :shock:

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Postby NOOG » 19 Jun 2011, 19:47


Hopefully you'll be better for some long training rides in July.
You and me both. I'm going to see a physio on Wednesday as it hasn't really improved :(

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Postby kiwiames » 19 Jun 2011, 19:51

Damn!!!! So close Mike - I expected a medal from you lot :-(

How much time was 3rd place ahead????

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Postby mikesbytes » 19 Jun 2011, 19:59

Damn!!!! So close Mike - I expected a medal from you lot :-(

How much time was 3rd place ahead????
I think we were a fair bit off. Next year will be a different story 8)

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Postby Peter T » 20 Jun 2011, 13:47

Gale force winds, cracked lips, drinking defreezer out of our bidons, with the huskies howling on the cruel ridges and this was just the Sign In area.
The Dawdlers were back. Lindsay, John, Chris And Peter.
Wind, pain, wombats, wobbles, crosswinds and headwinds. We were preparing to do battle with the elements. This year there were no embarassing snafu's with fitting our electronic timing tags. We felt good. And we had a secret weapon. Scones.

At the countdown to the off, the gusts were lifting my upper lip. And then the moustache blew off.This wind had passed over the pack ice in its' time, and we really had to hang onto our scones.

And then we were moving, bent down fiddling with our pedal straps, getting settled, all tucked in nicely behind Chris.
Karzie, you would have been proud.

Lindsay's dream of finding the "Best Chinese Restaurant in Goulburn" kept us focused.
Images of sweet and sour pork, honeyed chicken and endless dim sims streamed past our dripping noses.
We kept up the relentless pace, tucked down low, riding deeper into the Badlands, just finishing off our second scone, when we saw, up ahead, coming towards us in the sleet, a Touch of Red.
It was the DHBC Womens Elite Team of Jessica, Lizanne Jo and Aimee!
Great cheers of delight, hoots, waving and big grins from all.
We were quite keen to pull over and offer them scones, but they were clearly on a mission and went on to finish on the podium.
Congrats - great to share a windy Time Trial with you all.

Afterwards, we did find that Chinese restaurant in Goulburn and feasted with Mike and Mark.
And enjoyed, as Lindsay put it, "Some good ol' Dawdlers backslapping".

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Postby Johnj » 21 Jun 2011, 00:09

RESULTS ARE HERE.

A great day out for the Valley Wheelers. Our rigorous team training regime consisted of two laps of Centennial Park where I believe we reached speeds in excess of 33km/hr. Then Lindsay’s headset came loose so we had to stop, fortunately for me as I was exhausted. My solo training included two Waterfall rides, where I got dropped by the C25s. Thanks to Eleri and Lindsay for getting me home.

On arrival at 9.30 I remarked that 10 degrees and sunshine were very unseasonable for Goulburn in winter. Almost immediately the wind picked up and the sun went behind clouds for the duration. Other teams had set up rollers for their warm up. That looked tiring, so we had tea and scones instead. We had a vigorous warm up ride of about 200 metres from the carpark to the start line, where we arrived ahead of schedule (this experience was not repeated).

We were told that our moustaches were not UCI legal as they constituted aerodynamic fairings under UCI Rule 1.3.011 (possibly under Subsection 3 “No technical innovation regarding anything used, worn or carried by any rider…may be used until authorised by the UCI Executive Committee.”) Anybody know where you can download a UCI technical innovation application form?

We were 24th of the 30 teams in our division, so we were definitely faster than the 6 teams who failed to turn up for the start. Amazingly, we were faster than one ladies masters team. Perhaps they stopped for a spot of brunch, or maybe they were looking for our moustaches?

Magic moments:
Lindsay getting dropped before we’d gone 300 metres.
Being closely scrutinized by the race referee when he drove past, to ensure that we’d removed our moustaches.
Getting that big cheer from the ladies as they passed.
Pete asking the marshals at the turning point “Are we the first through?”
Being caught and dropped by a solo rider who’d been dropped from his team because he was too slow…
Being helped along by Toff for the last 10 kms.
Finishing line abreast with three great teammates in my first ever race.
Sitting down to take the transponder off my bike at the finish and discovering I couldn’t stand up again.
Eating a big plate of honey chicken at the Golden Star Chinese Restaurant.

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Postby timyone » 21 Jun 2011, 07:06

Lol man I love the valley wheelers!

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Postby orphic » 21 Jun 2011, 09:24

Lol man I love the valley wheelers!

+1. I am a big fan. When are we getting those jerseys?!

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Postby lindsay » 21 Jun 2011, 12:02

Firstly my congratulations to all who competed on Sunday especially the Women's team & their bronze, well done.

I had a great day & really enjoyed the ride inspite of the wind. A couple of "the only-ies" in our team. The only team with a rider with galvanised spokes. The only team with a rider with toe clips & straps.

Some of my thoughts of the day - Warm-up is essential. I spent my time socializing before our start time and paid the price in the first 10km when I got dropped & everybody had to wait for me. I didn't really feel good until I'd been riding for an hour!

I felt really good about my wheels. Singles are great for this type of event & when I started producing some power towards the end (just before my back gave out) wheels were starting to sing.

It was a great lift to get the cheer from other DH teams. So I'd encourage everyone to give this type of racing a go. Top or bottom end it's all enjoyable. Here's some pics.

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Postby mikesbytes » 21 Jun 2011, 12:20

Some Analysis

Distance
88.4k - DHBC EM-4, DHBC EM-5
44.2k - DHBC M+ 6, DHBC EW-4, DHBC AA-26

Wind - the earlier your start time the better :)
9am - nil
10am - light
11am - medium
12pm - heavy
1pm - very heavy
In the end of the M+6 TT, it was so heavy that Mark L wasn't using his aero bars anymore.

Average Speed
DHBC EM-4 38.14
DHBC M+6 36.63
DHBC EM-5 36.55
DHBC EW-4 28.15
DHBC AA-26 26.98

Deflect to winner, Average Speed differential
DHBC M+6 3.52
DHBC EM-4 3.84
DHBC EM-5 5.43
DHBC EW-4 7.92
DHBC AA-26 16.23

Deflect to 3rd place, Average Seed differential
DHBC EW-4 0
DHBC M+6 1.67
DHBC EM-4 2.39
DHBC EM-5 3.97
DHBC AA-26 14.87

Teams beaten, excluding DNS, ie teams actually raced
DHBC M+6 5
DHBC EM-4 1
DHBC EM-5 0
DHBC EW-4 0
DHBC AA-26 0

The valley wheeler's were up against the fastest teams on the day, which distorts their average speed differentials downwards.

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Postby orphic » 21 Jun 2011, 12:48

Wow, how about we extract ALL the fun out of this thread...

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Postby Adrian E » 21 Jun 2011, 14:22

Wow, how about we extract ALL the fun out of this thread...
Lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEUGmWlkJZk

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Postby mikesbytes » 21 Jun 2011, 14:34

he he he he he

We will return Stronger, Fitter, Faster, more Aerodynamic

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Postby timyone » 21 Jun 2011, 17:29

It was windy all morning mike!

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Postby Eleri » 21 Jun 2011, 18:09

You had matching red booties. Now that's cute. You should have won.

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Postby mikesbytes » 21 Jun 2011, 21:07

It was windy all morning mike!
Bummer. BOM was on the other side of town, from the data I'd thought you guys had been saved from that evil wind
You had matching red booties. Now that's cute. You should have won.
That was the plan :wink: Unfortunately it was also the plan of the other teams :cry:

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Postby mikesbytes » 21 Jun 2011, 22:16

Go Jess !!!!!
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Postby timyone » 21 Jun 2011, 23:51

Bummer. BOM was on the other side of town, from the data I'd thought you guys had been saved from that evil wind
That was the plan :wink: Unfortunately it was also the plan of the other teams :cry:
Nope, our lads all just went hard as, and the other teams were supermen

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Postby Camilla » 22 Jun 2011, 00:57

All members of the Valley Wheelers be warned: I am going to give giant hugs next time I see you. I haven't laughed so much in ages! One for you too Vic.

And I'm not even a huggy person. See my cold stone avitar.

timyone
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Postby timyone » 22 Jun 2011, 10:37

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and heres the interview with the lads (click on it, sorry its off my Iphone)

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and them riding off

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this is the A team coming in.

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and the girls :D

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