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Postby Nada Z » 03 Jul 2010, 15:20

I was involved in an accident with a car on Thursday. I was taken to hospital and had all my clothes cut off me. Just wondering if anyone ever involved in an accident had retained their clothing which was cut off them? I could make a quilt or wall hanging with them in protest. I wouldn't do it straight away as I'm still sewing something for Brian but eventually.... thanks to this event I've been forced to slow down in terms of work so hopefully I'll finish off your sewing Brian.

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Postby timyone » 03 Jul 2010, 15:26

far out@! are you ok?

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Postby Hung » 03 Jul 2010, 15:34

taken to hospital - holy crap

r u OK ?

I has my first accident this morning Just before the airport tunnel heading south
was a very close call as there was a semi trailer a few hundred metres back

my brand new dur-ace wheel set are a right off :(

but could of been worse

same group had another accident at cronulla
not a good day for cycling

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Postby weiyun » 03 Jul 2010, 15:35

Sorry to hear about your accident. But cutting cloths is SOP for those who come in as trauma candidates. It's not done lightly and is for your own well being in mind. And it's cringe time when the big scissors has to go on expensive leather jackets/pants.

The quilt should look pretty spectacular!

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Postby Nada Z » 03 Jul 2010, 16:16

I'm okay - just lots of grazes and a black eye, bruised chin, and very sore left side of my body. I'm very, very lucky. Are you okay Hung? You weren't taken away?

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Postby Eleri » 03 Jul 2010, 18:30

Just wondering if anyone ever involved in an accident had retained their clothing which was cut off them?
I did - I had one leg of my new jeans cut off immediately post the accident. It was a motorbike accident and I got a big cut in my knee as well as the jeans and then the ambos cut the rest of the jeans leg off. I then insisted on getting out of the jeans myself which was very painful and probably stupid. Later I cut the other leg off to match and then sewed them both back on again. It wasn't very stylish but I think I wore them for a few years after that. I've still got the scar on my knee from being stitched up but the jeans are long gone.

A quilt sounds like an excellent idea.

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Postby Nada Z » 03 Jul 2010, 19:10

Ouch! I was so doped up on Thursday I took all my things home forgetting that everything but my nix had been cut off. Btw, all the staff at RNS were wonderful!

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Postby Julio » 03 Jul 2010, 20:53

I once had a rugby jersey cut off me after the scrum I was hooking came down on top of me in an 18yrs match. After going to hospital, getting the cat scan, given the okay I then took the jersey home and still have it somewhere. On side note I played a gig that night as a bass player in a punk band needless to say there was a big lack of head movement that night on my behalf.

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Postby mikesbytes » 03 Jul 2010, 22:07

I have my knicks cut off me, I had arrived in hospital with just the knicks on. It also meant that I had no clothing what so ever, so I was naked under sheets for 2 days until some clothing was brought to me.

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Postby weiyun » 03 Jul 2010, 22:50

I have my knicks cut off me, I had arrived in hospital with just the knicks on. It also meant that I had no clothing what so ever, so I was naked under sheets for 2 days until some clothing was brought to me.
Hospital gowns/surgical scrubs are well worn/washed 100% cotton, so they are quite comfortable as pajamas or work wear. 8)

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Postby Nada Z » 04 Jul 2010, 10:22

Hehe... love these stories. I had a low point last night - very scary but these stories are cheering me up (in a sick sort of way). Can I have your cut-off knicks Mike? Can I have your torn jersey Julio? I cannot believe you did a gig the same night.... crazy, crazy man!

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Postby lindsay » 04 Jul 2010, 10:45

I had a stack yesterday...however I wasn't on a bike, I was in a boat. The worst part is we'd just finished racing and we were tied up to a jetty. I went downstairs and somehow lost my balance and went ribcage first into the keel box. I didn't even get my arm up to slow the fall. Today I am very sore & I cannot sneeze, yawn, take a deep breath or fart properly.

I managed to get an arm-warmer over my broken wrist.

I also had a little stack once, I wasn't even slightly hurt but put a hole in every piece of clothing I was wearing.

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Postby yewenyi » 04 Jul 2010, 11:48

Nada, I hope that you recover quickly. I'd love the sowing to be done before September when I go up to Queensland for Cycle Queensland.

The only time I ended up in Hospital was while riding to school. The rain was starting so I decided to stop on the other side of an intersection to do up my rain jacket. Then I had an out of body experience and watched myself be knocked over by a car. When I came around, I was being put on a stretcher, with the bumper bar of the car that hit me inches from my head. At this time the school bus went past and they saw me being put in the Ambulance. They told everyone at school that I was dead. I don't think I had anything wrong with me at all. No bruises. But as I was out for a while they kept me in hospital for 4 hours under observation. I did not even know which hospital I was in. So I got to keep my clothes in one piece. But I did leave the bend in my bike frame as a reminder. It still has the bend in it.

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Postby Nada Z » 04 Jul 2010, 12:24

Before September is very doable. It's priority numero uno! Poor Lindsay! Not being able to fart properly must be terrible :-)

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Postby mikesbytes » 04 Jul 2010, 12:38

Lindsay, didn't know you had done your wrist in too - ouch.

Nada, my cutup shorts went in the bin

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Postby Trouty » 04 Jul 2010, 18:20

I was in a car accident whilst I borrowed my sister's very expensive Leather Jacket from Italy which was a one off. She was hesitant to lend it to me, but did. So that ended up in 1000 peices and she fainted when she saw me and the jacket in hospital.

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Postby lindsay » 06 Jul 2010, 13:22

Hi Everyone,
I managed to get an arm-warmer over my broken wrist.
This was an old injury I'm referring to in about 2002 & is all healed up. My fall in Saturday has left me with only sore ribs. They are however mighty sore I can tell you. Bruise is starting to come out.

Cheers,

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Postby mikesbytes » 06 Jul 2010, 13:28

Lindsay, have you been riding to work?

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Postby weiyun » 06 Jul 2010, 13:33

My fall in Saturday has left me with only sore ribs. They are however mighty sore I can tell you. Bruise is starting to come out.
Guess you are not interested in knowing if it's fractured or not. :roll: :wink:

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Postby fenn_paddler » 06 Jul 2010, 14:03

Isn't it the case that nothing can be done if fractures are discovered anyway?

The last time I injured my ribs in a fall I was absolutely convinced something was cracked, but the x-rays indicated otherwise. Still didn't stop them from aching and taking months to properly heal.

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Postby weiyun » 06 Jul 2010, 14:27

Isn't it the case that nothing can be done if fractures are discovered anyway?

The last time I injured my ribs in a fall I was absolutely convinced something was cracked, but the x-rays indicated otherwise. Still didn't stop them from aching and taking months to properly heal.
That's correct in general as the management of rib fractures is conservative for the great majority of cases. Having the correct diagnosis also provides for the appropriate expectation both in terms of treatment, response and social management. However there are and have been other situations where the root cause wasn't the trauma or there are other associated complications that a simply X-ray can pick up,
- Primary/secondary bone cancer (and other conditions) diagnosed after an accident.
- Pneumothorax.
- Haemothorax.
- Flail rib segment.
- etc.
If proper diagnostic tests are bypassed, then there may be significant delays in subsequent management. So there'll never be any criticisms for "another" X-ray for suspected rib injuries.

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Postby Karzie » 06 Jul 2010, 18:35

I broke a rib skiing by myself in NZ a couple of years ago. Every morning I had to get out of bed by rolling onto the floor and getting up on my hands and knees. It always felt much better by the time I hit the slopes again, but it seemed to take a bit of the fun out of it. It took a good couple of months before I felt like my old self.

Hang in there Lindsay. Stock up on panadeine. NO laughing, coughing, burping or farting or SNEEZING!!! (and other matters of the flesh need lots of imagination...)

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Postby Nada Z » 06 Jul 2010, 20:49

Are you a doctor Weiyun?

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Postby weiyun » 06 Jul 2010, 22:08

Yes.

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Postby Nada Z » 07 Jul 2010, 00:55

Ok, well... I was just wondering: is it normal to be psychologically affected by these traumatic incidents? Because I walked out of hospital knowing that my outward injuries would heal and not even expecting that in a few hours and days time I would be hysterically depressed/upset/anxious/panicky. Point being, it was scary and I was given antibiotics and panadeine forte but not a hint of valium or a phone number to call should the psychological bit hit. And it hit! What happens now? Should I be getting a referral to a psychologist/psychiatrist? Help please - the psychological bit was much worse than the accident.

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Postby jimmy » 07 Jul 2010, 07:20

I wiped out years ago on a right hand corner, it was just one of those bad luck accidents. Even the people behind me were surprised that I went down.

For a couple of weeks afterwards, I was really shy about right handers, I could turn left with no issues, but I was really hesitant about the rights.

A race soon sorted that out. I had no choice but to hit them fast.

Getting over the psychological trauma of an accident is probably harder, it does get easier. I know that I literally bounce back up from an accident now and get back on the bike with no issues. The best suggestion I have is to get back on the bike gently. So avoid situations where you are going to have the flashback to the accident. Go with a group of friends who are prepared to take it easy.

It really depends on you, from experience, the best thing for me is to basically face it and deal with it. My last accident occurred when I had my hands off the bars. Later on in that ride, I deliberately rode with no hands on the bars to prove to myself that I could still do it. But for others, it may be better to take it slowly and get the confidence back bit by bit.

James

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Postby fenn_paddler » 07 Jul 2010, 07:53

Yes.
It feels =very strange= to be receiving advice off an internet forum from someone that is actually qualified to do so!

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Postby weiyun » 07 Jul 2010, 11:29

It feels =very strange= to be receiving advice off an internet forum from someone that is actually qualified to do so!
There are actually quite a few reliable medical info sites on the net these days. The key restraint is that the advice are of generic nature and the only acceptable advice at an individual level is to consult your doctor in person.

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Postby Nada Z » 07 Jul 2010, 17:44

I did go and see my doctor and I asked if I should see a psychologist. She asked if anyone who had been in a similar situation could recommend one. I don't think I'll have a problem getting back on the bike. My problem was just that suddenly I become panicky and anxious. One minute I was okay the next I was in tears and it was scary. I'll make an effort to get back to slowies James. Thanks for your advice.

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Postby Karzie » 08 Jul 2010, 10:26

She asked if anyone who had been in a similar situation could recommend one.
I had an incident a year or so ago which was potentially traumatic and my Workcover people made me see a psychologist so they were covered. He was very good and specialises in Post Traumatic Stress. Works for the Defence Force in Afghanistan and Iraq part of the year. If you want a contact, PM me.

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Postby Nada Z » 08 Jul 2010, 18:15

Thank you all for your support, anecdotes, and advice. I really appreciate it. I am feeling a million times better and I'm healing extremely well.


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