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Postby rhys » 15 Dec 2011, 17:44

Would people in here be interested in a thread where we post ebay links to bicycles/parts of a valley wheeler nature?
If so I will start.

20 inch alan road frame
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Alan-20-Road ... 500wt_1267

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Postby marc2131 » 16 Dec 2011, 06:45

I know some of us trawl thru ebay and other sites looking for vintage bike stuff regularly. Would be nice to have a few interesting links posted out.

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Postby Lizanne » 16 Dec 2011, 08:10

can we post the photo's with a non e-bay link , download to photo bucket or something. because e-bay links only last 90 ish days
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Postby timyone » 16 Dec 2011, 09:23

wow! trippy seat post!

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Postby rhys » 16 Dec 2011, 12:13

Lizanne wrote:can we post the photo's with a non e-bay link , download to photo bucket or something. because e-bay links only last 90 ish days


I'm not quite sure what you mean?
If the link only lasts 90 days, surely the auction will have been finished by then and there is no point in checking it out?

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Postby Lizanne » 16 Dec 2011, 12:42

to keep an archive of the photo's that way we can still see them even if we don't own them

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Postby rhys » 19 Dec 2011, 23:02

Noting my love of all things Klein, this would make my life complete.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-KLEIN-Perf ... 454wt_1016

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Postby rhys » 25 Dec 2011, 22:12

One for you Toff. His other items are pretty nice too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Colnago-Master- ... 049wt_1189

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Postby Toff » 27 Dec 2011, 10:09

Nice...

Haven't got an Equilateral. It's on my list of bikes to eventually obtain, along with an Arabesque (or possibly a Regal). Unfortunately (thankfully) this one is too big for me. Nice to see it is properly appointed with correct parts, and not unreasonably priced for such a rare frame.

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Postby Toff » 01 Jan 2012, 12:33

How much would you pay for a bike saddle?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/360420314003
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Sure it's a Unicanator, but WTF?

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Postby marc2131 » 01 Jan 2012, 17:46

Never seen a Unicanitor with the sort of sewn in padding on the top. :?:

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Postby Toff » 05 Jan 2012, 11:26

Only the second one of these I've ever seen...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI ... SS:AU:1123

This one is also cool, even if the fork is wrong.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI ... 0695659699

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Postby Lizanne » 05 Jan 2012, 11:29

is the funkey thingy behind the head tube UCI legal?

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Postby Toff » 05 Jan 2012, 11:55

Nope. The gusset is not UCI legal. Neither is having a 650C wheel in front, when the back wheel is a 700C.

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Postby rhys » 18 Jan 2012, 13:33

Olmo, Dura Ace with pick up only from Collaroy:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VINTAGE-OLMO ... 35b8a29e7a

Older Genesis, Dura Ace 7400 and Shamals:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Excellent-Co ... 730wt_1141

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Postby Lizanne » 18 Jan 2012, 14:04

i'de buy the Genesis just for parts and wheels

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Postby Toff » 18 Jan 2012, 14:55

That Genesis has had a hard life. There is not much left in those wheels. Looks like the braking surface is almost worn through. First long descent, and a rim would split I reckon. Aluminium frames also don't live forever. I'll buy a rusty steel frame, but I won't buy an aluminium frame that's more than 5 years old. That Genesis is about 18 years old.

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Postby shrubb face » 18 Jan 2012, 20:20

Ive got that exact Genesis frame sitting in my house. Came 3rd in C grade heffron on it.

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Postby Toff » 19 Jan 2012, 08:36

Thanks Shrubb. So it's not a "custom made" frame. It's a bog standard frame. The seat tube and top tube lengths quoted by the seller involve creative measuring techniques...

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Postby MtbAnt » 26 Jan 2012, 09:19

Hey does anyone know if any of these steel frames would have sufficient clearance for cyclocross tyres or be strong enough for that purpose? I am hopeful on getting a lugged steel touring bike that doubles as a cyclocrosser. Thanks in advance.

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Postby Lizanne » 27 Jan 2012, 07:59

ummm
i believe a 27" would have enough clearence to be a cross bike, and lugged steel will be strong enough for sure. but just like newer bikes, you can't just say lugged steel, i have 3 different lugged steel bikes (all 48cm frames) with varying wheel clearence and toe overlap, so it really depends.
all i can say steel will be heaps better than old alloy or carbon (both have short working lives)

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Postby Toff » 27 Jan 2012, 13:04

Some will and some won't. High-end road racing bikes almost certainly won't. Mid range ones might. Low end ones (probably) will.

A 27" frame will have enough clearance if 700C wheels are used, but in my experience you get limited choice of brake calipers which have long enough reach to do the job.

Cyclocross bikes have v-brakes, not road bike calipers, because too much mud gets thrown up into road calipers to make the system reliable.

I would suggest having a look at some of the flat bar road bikes going around at the moment. They have V-brakes, bosses for attaching pannier racks and mudguards, and plenty of clearance for fat tyres. If you change the handlebars and brake levers you can convert it into a tourer/cyclocross on the cheap. Bundy has bikes in the "Jamis Coda" series and "Orbea Carpe" series starting at under $600. Perfect for touring, commuting, and modifying for CX!

If you want to take cyclocross seriously you're going to need a proper cyclocross bike, with shifter cables that run along the top tube, but these won't have touring and mudguard rack bosses, so it's probably not going to be ideal.

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Postby Toff » 21 Feb 2012, 00:30

Some of you may have heard me talking about one of my "projects" down at the café on occasion. The project in question is my Colnago Master Chrono TT. Well, here's a nice example of one.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... 0714259674

Alas, mine isn't currently in the same condition. It can be viewed at Peter Bundy's shop as it waits for the right repair to restore it to its former glory.

In the meantime, this will be interesting to watch, to see what my investment could potentially be worth. (Although mine is ready to be draped in C-Record, rather than DA).

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Postby Johnj » 21 Feb 2012, 19:05

Toff wrote:Some of you may have heard me talking about one of my "projects" down at the café on occasion. The project in question is my Colnago Master Chrono TT. Well, here's a nice example of one.


And now we go from the sublime to the Gor' blimey. :lol:

A VINTAGE CAMPAGNOLO GRAN SPORT REAR DERAILLEUR ~ EARLY 1950'S ~ FIRST GENERATION for $1500. Well, not exactly.

Its actually a mid-60s "Campagnolo" derailleur, a cheap version of the (by then) outmoded Gran Sport. To save costs the knuckles and pulley cage are unplated. I think its got some novelty value, but more like $15 than $1500.

Here's a picture of a similar one:
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Postby Toff » 22 Feb 2012, 11:55

So John, that derailleur should be listed in the Campagnolo No 15 catalogue then?

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Postby Johnj » 22 Feb 2012, 23:50

Toff wrote:So John, that derailleur should be listed in the Campagnolo No 15 catalogue then?


If it was in production in 1967, you'd expect to find it in Cat #15.... but it isn't there, so maybe it was axed by 1967? According to this the "Campagnolo" was introduced in 1963, so it was obviously very short-lived.

Even the Valentino and the ancient Sport derailleur are in Cat # 15, so the "Campagnolo" was definitely not too crappy to be in the catalogue. I suspect the clue is that the Gran Sport was out of production by then. Perhaps having a cheaper derailleur based on a recently discontinued high-end one might have poached sales from other parts of the inventory. Did the Valentino replace the Gran Sport? Or maybe it replaced the "Campagnolo"? The Valentino definitely looks cheaper to produce, maybe it had better profit margins?

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Postby Toff » 23 Feb 2012, 00:09

According to that timeline, the Valentino was introduced the next year (1964) so I would say the Valentino replaced the "CAMPAGNOLO". The Valentino was a pretty crummy deraileur, despite its lovely red nut highlights. It looks like it belongs on low-end Raleighs with those red nuts.

I'm trying to work out what this is... Clearly not a Valentino, and not a typical Gran Turismo either. Any ideas anyone?

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Postby Toff » 23 Feb 2012, 14:22

Oh dear...

Drop bars on a funny bike? (Well, technically, it's only a half-funny, since all the tubes are straight. Funny bikes are supposed to have at least one curved tube, which is usually the top tube.) And a snowflake front wheel? Way to ruin a pretty decent frame! Appalling spelling everywhere can't do much for the attractiveness of his ad. Still, no major harm done to the frame.

Tubing looks like Columbus Air to me. Wonder if it uses the teardrop seatpost. If the seatpost is round the frame is late 80s. If it's teardrop, it's early 80s. My guess would be pretty close to 84. That's when 24 inch front wheels were popular, thanks to the LA Olympics.

Funny bikes were banned in 1997, not mid 80s. Even this kid should have been alive then...

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Postby rhys » 11 Apr 2012, 15:23

Some great pairs of older Sidi's here for folks with smaller feet.

http://stores.ebay.com.au/RobertoBicicl ... op=1&_sc=1

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Postby rhys » 11 Apr 2012, 15:48

One that might interest you Toff, though it's a fair chunk of money (worth it to a collector perhaps)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Colnago-Mast ... 166wt_1214

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Postby Toff » 14 Apr 2012, 10:47

rhys wrote:One that might interest you Toff, though it's a fair chunk of money (worth it to a collector perhaps)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Colnago-Mast ... 166wt_1214

Meh.
This bike is what is commonly referred to as a "bitza". The value is mostly in the frame. Too many irregularities in the build for it to be worth anything to a collector. It's a 1994 frame, with parts mostly from the late 1970s. Fluted Super Record was made up until 1985, but gum hoods, and lack of plastic coverings on the brake block adjusters date these parts to pre 1978. So the parts are potentially a couple of decades older than the frame. The Nuovo Record shifters are also from the 70s. Those things in themselves detract from the build. The front derailleur is unknown, but if it is actually Campag, it's mid range at best, and would date from around the late 80s. Looks like it might be Athena, but the picture is too small to tell. The headset is also not Campag. It's some el cheapo generic version. What else? The pantographing is non genuine, which has effectively ruined the parts that have been marked. The stem has an interesting engraving on the side: possibly the original owner's name? Probably not, since the bike has been recently built up from "spare" parts, and by 1994 the 1A stem was out of production, and had been replaced by the X/A stem and others.

C-Record hubs are nice. Saddle is also nice, but not really appropriate on an Italian bike.

Not sure I would be confident with that bar/stem combination. Cinelli bars and stems used their proprietry sizing of 26.4mm, whereas 3TTT bars and stems used the 26.0mm standard. Putting a 3TTT bar in a Cinelli stem would result in a 0.4mm misfit. Doesn't sound like much, but from experience, I can tell you that it's impossible to tighten a Cinelli stem up tight enough to stop the bars slipping at the worst possible moment, like hard braking or a pothole. If your hands are on the hoods, you are more than likely to go over the bars. Cinelli bars from that era should only be matched with a Cinelli stem. 3TTT bars can be matched with any stem except Cinelli.

Not sure what the "Anno: 80th" comment is supposed to mean. Looks like keyword spam.

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Postby shrubb face » 23 Apr 2012, 12:56

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Columbus-SL- ... 20c4e24384

Whilst not classically correct, it would be a sweet little bike for lizanne.

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Postby Lizanne » 23 Apr 2012, 13:23

awww thanks Alex! it is a sweet bike.

btw
my birthday is in a few weeks :wink:

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Postby jermxx » 12 May 2012, 13:22




I've been thinking about getting a fixie for a commuter...

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Postby mikesbytes » 12 May 2012, 19:05

Lizanne wrote:Image

I know the dude that built this.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage-Trac ... 19cdad85df


Wow, even if you have my monkey arms, that's too low

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Postby Toff » 16 May 2012, 15:50

Too big for you, Lizanne. Plus, those older frames don't have the same geometry as modern frames. They have a much shallower seat tube angle, and usually a similar slope to the forks. This makes them less twitchy than modern track bikes. Bad for track riding, especially on banked tracks. Potentially good for riding on the road as a fixie, but who really wants to drill out a perfectly good track fork...

Still... Worth it for the parts!

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Postby Toff » 31 Jul 2012, 10:24

I want this!
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Postby Toff » 02 Aug 2012, 23:20

Lizanne wrote:http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/COLNAGO-MEXICO-ORO-RECORD-ORA-Campagnolo-Cinelli-3ttt-Mavic-Vintage-GOLD-/271024532399?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item3f1a522baf

Bargain!

Looks like the frame is later than the parts. Frame is a mid 80s frame but the parts are earlier. Pat 81 on the rear deraileur is out by at least three years from the frame's age: probably more. I would date the frame to ~1984.

Cranks are not Campagnolo as suggested by the seller. They are modified Gipiemme Chrono Special cranks. You can see the inscription "Special" on the back of the crank in one ofthe shots. A Campagnolo crank would have "Strada" stamped there. Plus there is no Campagnolo logo on the front of the crank. Now, as it happens, Colnago sold lots of bikes equipped with Gipiemme parts, as well as Galli, etc. Not everything was Campag, so that's not the problem. My concern is the pantographing on the crank. The pantographing should say "Colnago Ernesto", so I'm a dubious about the authnticity of these cranks. Strangely the dodgy looking pantographing on the brake levers are actually legit, and they are the only part that I would be confident actually belong on this frame.

Actually, that's a bit unfair. A second look indicates that the seatpost, and downtube shifters are probably original to the bike too. It's vaguely period correct, and it looks purdy, so I'll give it a thumbs up...

However... The gold value of the electroplating on this frame is seriously over-estimated, and even if there were $8,000 worth of gold, you'd need to spend around half that much to recover the gold. It can't exactly be chipped off. I think the complete bike is worth closer to $2k, but good luck to our German friend...

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Postby Toff » 02 Oct 2012, 12:01

Headset. Cheap!
Bargain!

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Postby Toff » 02 Oct 2012, 12:52

Lizanne wrote:http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1937-Speedwell-Challenge-Shield-Cycling-Trophy-/320720081257?pt=AU_Cycling_Memorabilia&hash=item4aac681169

not a bike, but really cool!


I think this is now the 3rd time I have seen this item appear on Ebay. Each time, the price goes up by an order of magnitude. Without a letter from the owner, you can pretty much assume it was stolen from a club at some time.

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Postby Karzie » 09 Oct 2012, 17:34

Toff wrote:Drooooool...


I want that seat!

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Postby Toff » 09 Oct 2012, 22:48

Karzie wrote:
Toff wrote:Drooooool...


I want that seat!

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/somerton ... 1006797474

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Postby Johnj » 31 Oct 2012, 18:01

Cyclemondo is selling a pile of NOS vintage Duegi shoes, some with cleats. I'm thinking of buying a pair of the Duegi 401s. Anyone know what the difference between the different model numbers?

Also, anybody else want to buy a pair and share the postage?

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Postby Peter T » 31 Oct 2012, 19:26

John, what size are you looking at?

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Postby Johnj » 31 Oct 2012, 19:50

I'm probably looking at a 45 or 45.5.

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Postby Peter T » 01 Nov 2012, 08:56

John, if your feet were smaller, you would get a very good deal from "Glensprocket" on Ebay on the UK.

Unfortunately, the sizes are all around 40 or so.

Happy hunting.

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Postby Toff » 30 Dec 2012, 07:23

One to watch...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Caminade-Cam ... 0548761084
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This will go for a pretty penny.


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